Andre Ward has refused to participate in the VADA testing

[imp]

Make a rule and not an offer. Real simple. Its not rocket science.

Exactly

[Rantcatrat]

Make a rule and not an offer. Real simple. Its not rocket science.

Exactly

Why is there a double standard for Ward but not for Pacquiao? There was no rule for Pacquiao. He wouldn't take the tests offered by Mayweather. Now we are a few years later, better informed of the PED landscape and with more knowledge that boxers cheat, and we still are giving guys' passes? Ward made $2MM for this fight! Pay for your own test and show Rodriguez up after you win the fight. It's simple, I agree.

[IamInuit]

Make a rule and not an offer. Real simple. Its not rocket science.

Exactly

Why is there a double standard for Ward but not for Pacquiao? There was no rule for Pacquiao. He wouldn't take the tests offered by Mayweather. Now we are a few years later, better informed of the PED landscape and with more knowledge that boxers cheat, and we still are giving guys' passes? Ward made $2MM for this fight! Pay for your own test and show Rodriguez up after you win the fight. It's simple, I agree.

People need to quit using that dog and pony show 2 year circus act as some kind of standard. I'm sure if this was a 100 million dollar fight Ward would live in a cage at the lab.

[jehoshaphat]

Make a rule and not an offer. Real simple. Its not rocket science.

Exactly

Why is there a double standard for Ward but not for Pacquiao? There was no rule for Pacquiao. He wouldn't take the tests offered by Mayweather. Now we are a few years later, better informed of the PED landscape and with more knowledge that boxers cheat, and we still are giving guys' passes? Ward made $2MM for this fight! Pay for your own test and show Rodriguez up after you win the fight. It's simple, I agree.

People need to quit using that dog and pony show 2 year circus act as some kind of standard. I'm sure if this was a 100 million dollar fight Ward would live in a cage at the lab.

These are 2 things too far apart to compare. Beside the fact that one was done in negotiations and the other basically done in a press conference. Pac looked suspicious not because he refused but because his reasons for not wanting the tests were outright lies. He started with saying he was afraid of needles, but dons many tattoos, then he said he didn't want to give blood (thought it would make him weak) within 2 weeks of the fight and then 24/7 clearly shows Pac getting blood drawn for a physical around 12 days before his Hatton fight. That's what made Pac look suspicious. Not to mention the 40 million other reasons.

[IamInuit]

Make a rule and not an offer. Real simple. Its not rocket science.

Exactly

Why is there a double standard for Ward but not for Pacquiao? There was no rule for Pacquiao. He wouldn't take the tests offered by Mayweather. Now we are a few years later, better informed of the PED landscape and with more knowledge that boxers cheat, and we still are giving guys' passes? Ward made $2MM for this fight! Pay for your own test and show Rodriguez up after you win the fight. It's simple, I agree.

People need to quit using that dog and pony show 2 year circus act as some kind of standard. I'm sure if this was a 100 million dollar fight Ward would live in a cage at the lab.

These are 2 things too far apart to compare. Beside the fact that one was done in negotiations and the other basically done in a press conference. Pac looked suspicious not because he refused but because his reasons for not wanting the tests were outright lies. He started with saying he was afraid of needles, but dons many tattoos, then he said he didn't want to give blood (thought it would make him weak) within 2 weeks of the fight and then 24/7 clearly shows Pac getting blood drawn for a physical around 12 days before his Hatton fight. That's what made Pac look suspicious. Not to mention the 40 million other reasons.

In the end the solution is simple. It hardly relies on any brain activity. Its like like a fart or a burp. You shall and not you may be randomly tested for title fights. Start there. If you say no then you dont fight. Again make it a rule and further a common contract clause.

Trying to compare this with the phantom fight horror show is down right laughable.

[jehoshaphat]

I agree. This picking and choosing is terrible. They can manage to do so for top amateur competitions but somehow its a problem for professional world title fights. Allowing the fighters to govern themselves, in the most important aspect, is quite asinine.

[Rantcatrat]

Make a rule and not an offer. Real simple. Its not rocket science.

Exactly

Why is there a double standard for Ward but not for Pacquiao? There was no rule for Pacquiao. He wouldn't take the tests offered by Mayweather. Now we are a few years later, better informed of the PED landscape and with more knowledge that boxers cheat, and we still are giving guys' passes? Ward made $2MM for this fight! Pay for your own test and show Rodriguez up after you win the fight. It's simple, I agree.

People need to quit using that dog and pony show 2 year circus act as some kind of standard. I'm sure if this was a 100 million dollar fight Ward would live in a cage at the lab.

These are 2 things too far apart to compare. Beside the fact that one was done in negotiations and the other basically done in a press conference. Pac looked suspicious not because he refused but because his reasons for not wanting the tests were outright lies. He started with saying he was afraid of needles, but dons many tattoos, then he said he didn't want to give blood (thought it would make him weak) within 2 weeks of the fight and then 24/7 clearly shows Pac getting blood drawn for a physical around 12 days before his Hatton fight. That's what made Pac look suspicious. Not to mention the 40 million other reasons.

In the end the solution is simple. It hardly relies on any brain activity. Its like like a fart or a burp. You shall and not you may be randomly tested for title fights. Start there. If you say no then you dont fight. Again make it a rule and further a common contract clause.

Trying to compare this with the phantom fight horror show is down right laughable.

That's 100% the solution. Until the commissions mandate it, boxers making 7 figures to fight should take the test.

[Freedom]

Ward said today that he's refusing to take the test because it wasn't in their contract.

But you'd think the so-called "Son of God" would do it for the good of the sport. It won't cost him anything and it would make a statement to the public that he's clean.