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    Quote Originally Posted by Freedom View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise View Post
    Coach has hand on Leonard's lap. Leonard does nothing
    Coach starts unzipping Leonard's pants. Leonard just watches him do it
    Coach goes inside Leonard's pants and takes Leonard dick out. Leonard not complaining
    Coach starts sucking Leonard's dick. Leonard supposedly jumps out the car and starts running

    The fact that Leonard didn't beat the fuck out of the coach as soon as his hand touched his thigh says it all. Leonard is a fucking fag
    True. Leonard could have said "no" and quickly left when the touching and unzipping began.
    I have to agree with VD on this occasion.
    Put yourself in that situation at 19-22 years old.
    If your straight (let alone a boxer) would you let another man take those foreplay steps in the first place?

    Perhaps he was scared and confused but just think how many other teenagers he would have abused because he was not exposed at that stage.

    Perhaps leonard was a bit curious and disgusted at the same time and ran away from it at the time.

    Now he has his millions and is safe its a good time to clear his chest with it.

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    not read it but from what you're saying this is someone he knew for some years growing up as a teenager. The person in question would have been an authority figure, someone he would have trusted. I don't think you people realise how abuse and grooming works

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    Quote Originally Posted by Howlin Mad Missy View Post
    not read it but from what you're saying this is someone he knew for some years growing up as a teenager. The person in question would have been an authority figure, someone he would have trusted. I don't think you people realise how abuse and grooming works
    Don't justify Leonard's fag behavior

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    I feel terrible for anyone that was sexually abused but in this case I think Ray was curious and now regrets his bi-curious ways.

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    Quote Originally Posted by walrus View Post
    I feel terrible for anyone that was sexually abused but in this case I think Ray was curious and now regrets his bi-curious ways.
    That was no abuse. If anything it sounds like non payment of services provided

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    An adult man allowed himself to be abused like that? An adult man who could clearly protect himself and did nothing to resist? I find that a little bit questionable. Would you punch him or just let him have his wicked way? Most would argue the former.

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    I think it's bullshit. He either made up this story or exaggerated some event to sell the book...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Howlin Mad Missy View Post
    not read it but from what you're saying this is someone he knew for some years growing up as a teenager. The person in question would have been an authority figure, someone he would have trusted. I don't think you people realise how abuse and grooming works

    Show me sometime if you like Yours is the figure I'd respect most out of all our mods, and I'm well groomed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by p4pking View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Howlin Mad Missy View Post
    not read it but from what you're saying this is someone he knew for some years growing up as a teenager. The person in question would have been an authority figure, someone he would have trusted. I don't think you people realise how abuse and grooming works

    Show me sometime if you like Yours is the figure I'd respect most out of all our mods, and I'm well groomed.
    I don't know, I hear Andre is pretty hot as well.

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    Leonard is the victim in this and should not be blamed for the indecent assault. The abuser used his position of trust and he should be the one targeted. It is easy to say what you would do now but in that situation you may not know what to do or react.
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    I get the jokes and crass humor but people always claim what they would do in a situation and truth be told no one can honestly say how they would react if their coach, somewho who they trust and someone who's been with them for such a long time, would suddenly do this.

    Who would have believed him if he suddenly went out and said it? He would have been ostracized, people would have called him a queer who's jealous that the coach didn't reciprocate his feelings. After all the coach was a well respected trainer and he was just a young 20 something year old kid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DavilaJones View Post
    I get the jokes and crass humor but people always claim what they would do in a situation and truth be told no one can honestly say how they would react if their coach, somewho who they trust and someone who's been with them for such a long time, would suddenly do this.

    Who would have believed him if he suddenly went out and said it? He would have been ostracized, people would have called him a queer who's jealous that the coach didn't reciprocate his feelings. After all the coach was a well respected trainer and he was just a young 20 something year old kid.
    I can't say I would have kicked his ass but I wouldn't let my cock remain in his mouth. I probably would have said no thank you and not call or send flowers

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    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Leonard is the victim in this and should not be blamed for the indecent assault. The abuser used his position of trust and he should be the one targeted. It is easy to say what you would do now but in that situation you may not know what to do or react.
    Normally I'd agree with you, but a 22 year old should have things figured out.
    The thing is, I really don't care one way or the other, everyone is welcome to be as gay as they want, it's just curious the way he tells it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beenKOed View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Leonard is the victim in this and should not be blamed for the indecent assault. The abuser used his position of trust and he should be the one targeted. It is easy to say what you would do now but in that situation you may not know what to do or react.
    Normally I'd agree with you, but a 22 year old should have things figured out.
    The thing is, I really don't care one way or the other, everyone is welcome to be as gay as they want, it's just curious the way he tells it.
    Exactly.

    Leonard wasnt under 16.
    He was a man. He might still be fighting his true feelings to this day.

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    We will never know the truth.
    Unfortunately the abuser has escaped with this act.

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