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    Default Re: Andre Ward has refused to participate in the VADA testing

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    Ward said today that he's refusing to take the test because it wasn't in their contract.

    But you'd think the so-called "Son of God" would do it for the good of the sport. It won't cost him anything and it would make a statement to the public that he's clean.

    Why does he have to make this statement?
    You're missing the point with all due respect. He is under NO contractual obligation to do it. Therefore, he does NOT have to do it. He should voluntarily do it, especially given his previous, outspoken stance on PEDs and the fact that his opponent is doing it.

    By refusing to take PED tests for whatever reason, e.g. contract or not, it is suspicious. I wouldn't go as far as to say he is taking PEDs because innocent until proven guilty, but again it is suspicious.

    How am I missing the point. Seems to me you are missing the point. Andre is not the poster child for surprise testing. Why should he volunteer to do it? This is crazy. If everybody should volunteer to do it then make it mandatory FFS. This is getting ridiculous. Pulling freakin names out of a hat and expecting these people to agree to extra testing after contracts are signed. Person A should volunteer but person B does not have to?

    The elephant in the room is the fact that all the powers who run the damn sport dont want the testing.If they did we would not be having this discussion. You cant just start randomly picking guys out of the crowd that already have contracts signed expect them to do it and if they dont presume guilt. That is a witch hunt.
    Put aside the contracts, why wouldn't he want to test if his opponent is undergoing tests? Why not operate on an even playing field?

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    Default Re: Andre Ward has refused to participate in the VADA testing

    Quote Originally Posted by Rantcatrat View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by IamInuit View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by IamInuit View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Freedom View Post
    Ward said today that he's refusing to take the test because it wasn't in their contract.

    But you'd think the so-called "Son of God" would do it for the good of the sport. It won't cost him anything and it would make a statement to the public that he's clean.

    Why does he have to make this statement?
    You're missing the point with all due respect. He is under NO contractual obligation to do it. Therefore, he does NOT have to do it. He should voluntarily do it, especially given his previous, outspoken stance on PEDs and the fact that his opponent is doing it.

    By refusing to take PED tests for whatever reason, e.g. contract or not, it is suspicious. I wouldn't go as far as to say he is taking PEDs because innocent until proven guilty, but again it is suspicious.

    How am I missing the point. Seems to me you are missing the point. Andre is not the poster child for surprise testing. Why should he volunteer to do it? This is crazy. If everybody should volunteer to do it then make it mandatory FFS. This is getting ridiculous. Pulling freakin names out of a hat and expecting these people to agree to extra testing after contracts are signed. Person A should volunteer but person B does not have to?

    The elephant in the room is the fact that all the powers who run the damn sport dont want the testing.If they did we would not be having this discussion. You cant just start randomly picking guys out of the crowd that already have contracts signed expect them to do it and if they dont presume guilt. That is a witch hunt.
    Put aside the contracts, why wouldn't he want to test if his opponent is undergoing tests? Why not operate on an even playing field?

    This is becoming eternally circular. We keep on arriving at the start.

    Why did they not include it in the contract? You cant just remove the contract from discussion.

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