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    Default Re: Stiverne-Wilder for the WBC title.. says Schafer

    stiverne will destroy wilder. its a much easier fight for him than klitchko.

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    Default Re: Stiverne-Wilder for the WBC title.. says Schafer

    I have no idea why people are so sold on Stiverne off of one fight with Arreola (a guy who he was having real problems with IMO until he caught him with the hail mary right hand and shattered his nose).

    Stiverne is the same guy who fought a close, compeditive fight with a 40-plus year old RAY AUSTIN a year or two back.

    I say Wilder destroys Stiverne. I don't think this goes past 6.

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    Default Re: Stiverne-Wilder for the WBC title.. says Schafer

    Quote Originally Posted by Beanflicker View Post
    I have no idea why people are so sold on Stiverne off of one fight with Arreola (a guy who he was having real problems with IMO until he caught him with the hail mary right hand and shattered his nose).

    Stiverne is the same guy who fought a close, compeditive fight with a 40-plus year old RAY AUSTIN a year or two back.

    I say Wilder destroys Stiverne. I don't think this goes past 6.
    I think Wilder stays in the fight for the distance. He will certainly pace this fight with Wilder. Could possibly win on points.

    If Wilder ko's Stiverne in under 6, I would be TOTALLY shocked. But, due to the styles, Stiverne's strength, experience with taller guys, as well as his skill level and power, I see this being a distance fight- with sporadic and exciting exchanges, which will make this fight a 4 star out of 5 kinda fight.

    It may not be a barn-burner, but it will certainly be enough for us to be entertained.
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    Well, well, well! It's about f..ing time!
    Come on Bronze Mystery, make believers out of us.
    I'm hoping Wilder gets another quick KO or goes the distance with a solid win.

    Non-believers beware! Retribution is at hand. I hope, maybe....ah hell, please!

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    Default Re: Stiverne-Wilder for the WBC title.. says Schafer

    Can I be wet blanket here? Everytime Wilder wins Shaeffer says title shot in 2014. I don't believe it anymore. Wilder hasn't really even been in with live body. A jump from Firtha to Stiverne is BIG. It would be better for his development if he faced a guy like Travis Kauffman or Joe Hanks or Tor Hamer or maybe one of tough British heavyweights who get used as stepping stones these days.

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    Default Re: Stiverne-Wilder for the WBC title.. says Schafer

    It's time for Wilder to shit or get off the pot, he's fought enough stiffs, time to get in there with a real fighter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rantcatrat View Post
    Can I be wet blanket here? Everytime Wilder wins Shaeffer says title shot in 2014. I don't believe it anymore. Wilder hasn't really even been in with live body. A jump from Firtha to Stiverne is BIG. It would be better for his development if he faced a guy like Travis Kauffman or Joe Hanks or Tor Hamer or maybe one of tough British heavyweights who get used as stepping stones these days.
    Wet blanket?! Dude, you are like an ice cold shower on a winter morning, like a five gallon bucket of ice cold water--on a bare back--on a summer day, you are killing my high, bringing me down and I think you are enjoying it. Get off my back, Jack. Lol
    Now that I've gotten that out of my system, I will say that I know what you are saying. I remember the title shot we were promised for 2014 after the Liakhovich or it could have been the, lol, Harrison fight.
    I'm just hoping the truth will show up, one of these days.
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    Default Re: Stiverne-Wilder for the WBC title.. says Schafer

    Wilder will need to show some depth and variation to win. If he does, it should be fairly easy.
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    Default Re: Stiverne-Wilder for the WBC title.. says Schafer

    Wilder should be winning this easily. Stiverne's so stumpy and static he'll need Wilder to voluntarily sit in the pocket to get any work done. Wilder 'should' have no trouble whatsoever controlling the distance and bombing Stiverne out of there after softening him up for a few rounds.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Memphis View Post
    Wilder should be winning this easily. Stiverne's so stumpy and static he'll need Wilder to voluntarily sit in the pocket to get any work done. Wilder 'should' have no trouble whatsoever controlling the distance and bombing Stiverne out of there after softening him up for a few rounds.
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    Default Re: Stiverne-Wilder for the WBC title.. says Schafer

    Is Stivernes jab remotely close to the one Firtha was able to touch Wilder with quite a few times? Wilders almost clumsy attack can be exploited and Stiverne doesn't mind slowing a pace and he can find more than a few short counters in there. The worse thing Wilder could do is think all he has to do is go bombing and he'll fall over like the other stuntmen Wilder has faced, and I haven't seen any indication of this pro ported accurate stamina proven boxer puncher. I hope he gets sparked frankly.

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    Default Re: Stiverne-Wilder for the WBC title.. says Schafer

    Wow, Im surprised Wilder is getting this fight. I would have thought there would be a few europeans higher ranked then Wilder to get a title shot.

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    Default Re: Stiverne-Wilder for the WBC title.. says Schafer

    I'll believe it when Wilder's actually in the ring with him
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    Default Re: Stiverne-Wilder for the WBC title.. says Schafer

    Stiverne is pretty good imo, he's just kinda lazy and looks to counter exclusively a lot. He can do that though, and he can move a bit, Wilder hasn't seen any of that.
    If Wilder used his jab well and kept range to throw the right he'd win easy, but he didn't do that at all the other night and maybe isn't very good at it. If he comes in so sloppy again looking to fight I think Stiverne is well capable of taking him out.

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