Prime Pavlik vs Golovkin of now

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I'll take GGG but really it's a crazy pick-em fight to me. I think Kelly was really underrated for his boxing skill.

I've always been a Pavlik fan and still am. He was on his way to greatness until he took the Hopkins fight.
That fight ruined him, took his confidence, broke him mentally or whatever you want to say, anyway, he was never the same. IMO

Only if he had stayed at 160. Once he moved up, he has had much less success. The Hopkins fight is a perfect example. By the way, it made no sense to take that fight. Why face Hopkins at 170 in his second fight above 160? Why not fight once or twice more at a catchweight of 165 or at super middleweight?

I think he relied on his physicality at 160 to be effective, which is fine, but when that went, he didn't have that extra umph to set himself apart from the competition. If you think about it, what's his best win above 160?

At 160, Pavlik versus GGG would have been one heck of a scrap. I haven't seen GGG beat anyone as good as a prime Jermain Taylor yet. If GGG walks through Murray, I'll reassess the question.

Not sure that the weight was a major factor here. I think it was a style thing and I remember being I think 1 of 2 people on another forum picking Hopkins via schooling. Even the die hard fans of Hopkins were picking Pavlik to win and many were picking Kelly by stoppage across the net and boxing world.

After all he just ko'd the guy that beat him twice and then followed it up with a 12 round beating with a catch I think of 166. Pavliks people thought that Hopkins would take them over the top stardom wise and were most likely confident on winning and winning big. Imo the Taylor Kelly fought was not the same fighter that Hopkins fought and I don't think they actually considered that. They were to busy riding the wave. I'm not sure Kelly beats the same Taylor Bernard fought.

I think that Russian freak knocks Pavlik out.