p4p, what is your definition?

[imp]

Can only a heavyweight be a true p4p?

Ali is considered the GOAT but not everyones greatest heavyweight boxer.

Only a heavyweight can actually be a real p4p.

Putting the tag on a welter or any lower weight is just fantasy.

[p4pking]

Can only a heavyweight be a true p4p?

Ali is considered the GOAT but not everyones greatest heavyweight boxer.

Only a heavyweight can actually be a real p4p.

Putting the tag on a welter or any lower weight is just fantasy.

That's one way to look at it for sure, flip side is that if you do entertain the idea of ranking fighters irrespective of size a HW could never be. That's why it doesn't mean much I'd say.

[imp]

Can only a heavyweight be a true p4p?

Ali is considered the GOAT but not everyones greatest heavyweight boxer.

Only a heavyweight can actually be a real p4p.

Putting the tag on a welter or any lower weight is just fantasy.

That's one way to look at it for sure, flip side is that if you do entertain the idea of ranking fighters irrespective of size a HW could never be. That's why it doesn't mean much I'd say.

Who is your p4p fighter of the last ten years and state why and how that p4p applies to him (or her!)

[p4pking]

Can only a heavyweight be a true p4p?

Ali is considered the GOAT but not everyones greatest heavyweight boxer.

Only a heavyweight can actually be a real p4p.

Putting the tag on a welter or any lower weight is just fantasy.

That's one way to look at it for sure, flip side is that if you do entertain the idea of ranking fighters irrespective of size a HW could never be. That's why it doesn't mean much I'd say.

Who is your p4p fighter of the last ten years and state why and how that p4p applies to him (or her!)

Or her, now that is one line that can be drawn imo Last ten years easily Mayweather, whatever advantages he gives up now he had in droves at lighter weights and he's been the most complete fighter by a stretch for my money. I wouldn't venture to name a runner up though because it's so subjective and meaningless.

[Fenster]

P4P all depends on how thick someone is or how big a nerd they are. If you're proper thick you probably think there's a P4P title, if you're a nerd you compile a list that you believe contains the worlds best fighters. Eitherr way you're a cunt. Thanks.

[beenKOed]

Why don't we divide the fighters weight by his or her earnings? Who ever has the best earnings for body weight can be the #1 p4p.
If some of you guys want to add a little extra for belts, that's cool. Haha

[p4pking]

Why don't we divide the fighters weight by his or her earnings? Who ever has the best earnings for body weight can be the #1 p4p.
If some of you guys want to add a little extra for belts, that's cool. Haha

Chavez jr would be in the top 10, just saying.

[Morgan-B-Howell]

I don't like it in terms of serious boxing analysis but it's good fun. I have previously said on this forum that weight tourism is not the best thing happening in boxing at the moment and the pound for pound debate should be just fantasy but it's fuelling people like Broner jumping up to welter.

Boxing is a simple sport at it's most basic but if you start examining the variables such as size, speed, power, chin, heart, mental strength, technique it becomes extremely complex and assessing individuals against that criteria as a whole is almost impossible as an accurate comparison.

I think the best way to assess boxers on a pound for pound basis is to make the them fight each other at their current weight class over 15 rounds.

Not as stupid as it sounds as they do it in the gym all the time.

[beenKOed]

Why don't we divide the fighters weight by his or her earnings? Who ever has the best earnings for body weight can be the #1 p4p.
If some of you guys want to add a little extra for belts, that's cool. Haha

Chavez jr would be in the top 10, just saying.

I hear you, it's going to have to be a complex formula, if we want to get it right. Maybe you can talk IamInuit into helping us with that.

[IamInuit]

Why don't we divide the fighters weight by his or her earnings? Who ever has the best earnings for body weight can be the #1 p4p.
If some of you guys want to add a little extra for belts, that's cool. Haha

Chavez jr would be in the top 10, just saying.

I hear you, it's going to have to be a complex formula, if we want to get it right. Maybe you can talk IamInuit into helping us with that.

Thanks for the vote of confidence but in the present tense we'd have to do a complete refit lol. Besides I'm most likely the absolute dumbest person on the forum where math is concerned. Plus, there are a lot of people on this forum more wise then I on these matters. In a real way the phrase has become a product of its environment, a buzz word and you first have to remove it from that role.
Trouble is its part of the fabric. Look I don't use the phrase at all unless I find myself in the odd thread such as this. It's ubiquitous and I've accepted that but every once in awhile the elastic breaks and I feel the need to dismiss it as anything relevant other then the fact that its a favourite list. I also think its habitual and even those that agree with me use it because its easier in the world we live in. See there's that damn environment again. It's origins come from a time when there were only 8 divisions and hardship was the norm. A time when you did not lose your title on the scales because you forgot to cut your toenails. When Armstrong weighed 133 and still challenged Ross for his title along with countless other examples I wont bother to list. I'm afraid that history repeating itself may be the only answer.