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    I understand why Some people don't believe. Faith is the assurance in things hoped for and the belief in things unseen. It goes against our nature at times. What I don't understand is why some have contempt for individuals who do believe. I love to discuss faith but when people want to argue I usually run.

    As a Christian one will believe I am going to hell when I die, which is much worse than anything I could ever wish upon anyone. I think people are within their rights to be offended by that in the abstract, but as long as such an opinion isn't presented to me I would never judge anyone personally for having an imaginary friend.
    I can't speak speak for all Christians but Catholics do not believe that people who don't believe are destined for he'll. The theology for people who did not believe during life but make it anyway is actually quite sound. So feel as you must but what you are saying does not hold true to the 1.3 billion Catholics in the world. It's fine you don't believe but perhaps you should clarify some of your misconceptions.
    Having misconceptions about any religion is almost a paradox to me, as I belive it to be nothing more than fiction in the first place. I do find it fascinating that people are so predisposed to believe in personal gods and I should absolutely learn more about the basis for all of them, but it's not at the top of my list if I'm honest. Imo it's exciting that religion has been all but dismissed amongst serious thinkers in the last few centuries, and any evidence against it will only grow exponentially. Suppose we find concrete proof of life on another planet in our time, what would that mean to you?

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    I understand why Some people don't believe. Faith is the assurance in things hoped for and the belief in things unseen. It goes against our nature at times. What I don't understand is why some have contempt for individuals who do believe. I love to discuss faith but when people want to argue I usually run.

    As a Christian one will believe I am going to hell when I die, which is much worse than anything I could ever wish upon anyone. I think people are within their rights to be offended by that in the abstract, but as long as such an opinion isn't presented to me I would never judge anyone personally for having an imaginary friend.
    I can't speak speak for all Christians but Catholics do not believe that people who don't believe are destined for he'll. The theology for people who did not believe during life but make it anyway is actually quite sound. So feel as you must but what you are saying does not hold true to the 1.3 billion Catholics in the world. It's fine you don't believe but perhaps you should clarify some of your misconceptions.
    Having misconceptions about any religion is almost a paradox to me, as I belive it to be nothing more than fiction in the first place. I do find it fascinating that people are so predisposed to believe in personal gods and I should absolutely learn more about the basis for all of them, but it's not at the top of my list if I'm honest. Imo it's exciting that religion has been all but dismissed amongst serious thinkers in the last few centuries, and any evidence against it will only grow exponentially. Suppose we find concrete proof of life on another planet in our time, what would that mean to you?
    When you think about our Sun; It can fit our earth into it about a million times and our sun fits into the largest Sun in our Universe a billion times! Then there are more stars in our Universe than there are grains of sand in all the beaches of the world. Then we have 12 dimensions around us unseen. That sort of tells me we cant be the only ones in this.We are on the scale of things low lifes the way we treat each other and the planet. First time Ive used a lap top without mouse just then. I want my mouse back!Ah the trivialities.
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    “Barefoot conducts his seminars on his houseboat in Sausalito. It costs a hundred dollars to find out why we are on this Earth. You also get a sandwich, but I wasn't hungry that day. John Lennon had just been killed and I think I know why we are on this Earth; it's to find out that what you love the most will be taken away from you, probably due to an error in high places rather than by design.”
    “In the face of the obscene, explicit malice of the jungle, which lacks only dinosaurs as punctuation, I feel like a half-finished, poorly expressed sentence in a cheap novel.”
    “I spent the afternoon musing on Life. If you come to think of it, what a queer thing Life is! So unlike anything else, don't you know, if you see what I mean.”
    “A myth is a way of making sense in a senseless world. Myths are narrative patterns that give significance to our existence.”
    “It's not always easy to distinguish between existentialism and a bad mood.”
    “You say 'I' and you are proud of this word. But greater than this- although you will not believe in it - is your body and its great intelligence, which does not say 'I' but performs 'I'.”
    “One must not let oneself be misled: they say 'Judge not!' but they send to Hell everything that stands in their way.”
    “Take it moment by moment, and you will find that we are all, as I’ve said before, bugs in amber.”
    Now I'm not as dark and hard deterministic and these people but I'm at the door. I hold on tightly to the thoughts or belief that there must be something else. That random chance cant be the father of all of things. But the God of religion and especially Christianity has about the same odds as being the omnipotent one as random chance.

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