The Haye Blueprint

[powerpuncher]

its impossible to beat him. he is just too good

[erics44]

no fighter has troubled him since peter because since peter he has been allowed to clinch to extremes, his fights no longer resemble boxing

[Max Power]

Yes I am aware as we all are the reason why, I described the "huggy bear" tactics.

But the fact is he IS doing it and he IS getting away with it so clearly a different approach is required or he will hug again! lol

Notice the bigger taller fighters try stand up fight tactics with him, they do NOT try to rush in. But Wlad will always beat these guys too because he can out punch anybody his own size in terms of both speed and power, a product of his superior conditioning that no other 245lb 6'6" 81" reach HW could match at this time or has ever matched previously!

[erics44]

Yes I am aware as we all are the reason why, I described the "huggy bear" tactics.

But the fact is he IS doing it and he IS getting away with it so clearly a different approach is required or he will hug again! lol

Notice the bigger taller fighters try stand up fight tactics with him, they do NOT try to rush in. But Wlad will always beat these guys too because he can out punch anybody his own size in terms of both speed and power, a product of his superior conditioning that no other 245lb 6'6" 81" reach HW could match at this time or has ever matched previously!

the taller fighters he has fought have been utter shit, the best has probably been tony thompson and he looked utter rubbish against pulev

the fact is that there is extreme amounts of corruption surrounding his fights, in any other fight with any other ref he would be DQ'd

i am honestly doubtful that anyone would be allowed to beat him now, imagine if haye had landed a big punch, what lengths would the ref and ringside officials go to to ensure he was given time to recover and that haye wouldnt be allowed to land another punch

the only way to beat him and therefor the blue print is to get him away from eastern europe / germany and get an impartial ref

he is clearly good at what he does, very few other men would have been able to apply those tactics so well against the better fighters he has fought and win the fights, its just that his tactics arent in the boxing rule book

[Max Power]

I have to be honest here, his last fight was a bit much I agree.

But that fight where he went beyond the limit for me was in Russia, Povetkin's home ground with a supposedly home ref right?

Why didn't he separate them?

It's disgusting but are we sure it is not allowed are we? I have heard much dispute on that matter.

Tony Thompson was probably his best taller opponent granted. I think Tony gave Wlad a good fight when they fought. Tony is old now. That is a good example, Thompson was able to breach Wlad's defences. But punch speed and punch power won him the fight!

[erics44]

I have to be honest here, his last fight was a bit much I agree.

But that fight where he went beyond the limit for me was in Russia, Povetkin's home ground with a supposedly home ref right?

Why didn't he separate them?

It's disgusting but are we sure it is not allowed are we? I have heard much dispute on that matter.

Tony Thompson was probably his best taller opponent granted. I think Tony gave Wlad a good fight when they fought. Tony is old now. That is a good example, Thompson was able to breach Wlad's defences. But punch speed and punch power won him the fight!

have a look who has reffed wlads last few fights, it was wlads ref in the provetkin fight doing what he always does, and lets be honest, russia isnt exactly an away day for wlad, when he fights anyone but provetkin he is russian

haye was poor against wlad but wlads holding was extreme in that fight also

and it isnt allowed, the rules clearly state that holding isnt allowed and is considered a fowl

and how shit would the sport be if it was allowed? it would be like mma (or one of wlads fights)

[Max Power]

Well there has to be a loophole. The WBA, WBO, IBF and Ring magazine management and the commissions are not going to allow Wlad to cheat for a decade to remain champion. Something he is doing is legal.

Anyway I was not aware that it was Wlad's ref involved in Povetkin fight. That ref should never be allowed to ref a title fight again.

I think they should enter a clause where Wlad must defend every second fight on the challengers home ground or atleast a neutral ground with neutral refs.