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    Default Re: The Haye Blueprint

    I have to be honest here, his last fight was a bit much I agree.

    But that fight where he went beyond the limit for me was in Russia, Povetkin's home ground with a supposedly home ref right?

    Why didn't he separate them?

    It's disgusting but are we sure it is not allowed are we? I have heard much dispute on that matter.

    Tony Thompson was probably his best taller opponent granted. I think Tony gave Wlad a good fight when they fought. Tony is old now. That is a good example, Thompson was able to breach Wlad's defences. But punch speed and punch power won him the fight!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Max Power View Post
    I have to be honest here, his last fight was a bit much I agree.

    But that fight where he went beyond the limit for me was in Russia, Povetkin's home ground with a supposedly home ref right?

    Why didn't he separate them?

    It's disgusting but are we sure it is not allowed are we? I have heard much dispute on that matter.

    Tony Thompson was probably his best taller opponent granted. I think Tony gave Wlad a good fight when they fought. Tony is old now. That is a good example, Thompson was able to breach Wlad's defences. But punch speed and punch power won him the fight!
    have a look who has reffed wlads last few fights, it was wlads ref in the provetkin fight doing what he always does, and lets be honest, russia isnt exactly an away day for wlad, when he fights anyone but provetkin he is russian

    haye was poor against wlad but wlads holding was extreme in that fight also

    and it isnt allowed, the rules clearly state that holding isnt allowed and is considered a fowl

    and how shit would the sport be if it was allowed? it would be like mma (or one of wlads fights)
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    Well there has to be a loophole. The WBA, WBO, IBF and Ring magazine management and the commissions are not going to allow Wlad to cheat for a decade to remain champion. Something he is doing is legal.

    Anyway I was not aware that it was Wlad's ref involved in Povetkin fight. That ref should never be allowed to ref a title fight again.

    I think they should enter a clause where Wlad must defend every second fight on the challengers home ground or atleast a neutral ground with neutral refs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Max Power View Post
    Well there has to be a loophole. The WBA, WBO, IBF and Ring magazine management and the commissions are not going to allow Wlad to cheat for a decade to remain champion. Something he is doing is legal.

    Anyway I was not aware that it was Wlad's ref involved in Povetkin fight. That ref should never be allowed to ref a title fight again.

    I think they should enter a clause where Wlad must defend every second fight on the challengers home ground or atleast a neutral ground with neutral refs.
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    the IBF, WBA, WBO make a mint out of wlad fights, they wouldnt do anything about stopping it, and if that ref didnt ref wlad fights they would just pay someone else a mint to let him cheat, and why would they have wlad fight anywhere else with a different ref if there was a chance of him losing

    the reality is we are just going to have to wait until he retires to have any interesting and fair HW title fights again
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    The way to beat Wladimir is a process with many steps. Make him move constantly, initiate clinches only to break them early and punch on the way out, use angles, work the body specifically the ribs under the left arm to attempt to stymie his jab. If he leans on you just give way, no use in fighting against his weight, plus it won't be ruled a knockdown unless he hits you on the way down.

    A lot of fighters seem to want to make Wlad reach and miss, but the issue with that is (especially if Wlad's using his jab) Wlad will half punch the jab, paw with it, leaving his arm partially extended and from that position he can and does land full power jabs when he believes he's in better range and when his opponents think they are just out of range. It's almost like in ice hockey with a poke check, sometimes a defenseman will give a forward a little room by pulling his stick back a bit, and when the forward gets too comfortable , BANG! The defenseman shoots the stick at the puck and causes a turnover. It's the same concept Wlad utilizes with his jab.

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    Default Re: The Haye Blueprint

    nah you ant got the foggiest idea what youre on about

    theres 1 way to beat him, get yourself in a position where any fight you have would generate more money than any fight he would have, and where you could do that on a consitent regular basis
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    Default Re: The Haye Blueprint

    What blueprint bruh? lol He didnt do shit but run like a girl and getting on his knees a bunch of times in fear of getting hit.

    If anything, Lamon Brewster's blueprint is the best even though Wlad may not be the same fighter today.. He still had the right idea

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