Shady title wins & losses..minus the judges?

[p4pking]

Good thread, I'm sure if you go back far enough we could still make this 1,000 pages. First one that jumps to my mind was JC Chavez sr against Frankie Randall in the rematch, complete crock of shit. The ref actually rules the headbutt unintentional and then proceeds to take a point anyways, he probably somehow knew Chavez needed it on the cards or something. Not to mention it wasn't that bad a cut Chavez could have fought on, it was a clear fix imo.

[p4pking]

Shut up Finito.

[erics44]

sven ottke

[powerpuncher]

it wasnt a title fight, but was a title eliminator. when rocky juarez fought zahir raheem. the ref kept deducting points from raheem for no reason and threw him off his gameplan. at the end of the fight, raheem still clearly won the fight but the decision was given to juarez.

[Violent Demise]

sven ottke

It's been the popular thing to say when his name comes up. But if people where to actually watch his fights instead of going by what others say they'll see that a case can be made for Ottke winning every of his fights. Sven Ottke should be in the HOF

[Kirkland Laing]

sven ottke

It's been the popular thing to say when his name comes up. But if people where to actually watch his fights instead of going by what others say they'll see that a case can be made for Ottke winning every of his fights. Sven Ottke should be in the HOF

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How about the Robin Reid fight? At one point the ref almost disqualified Reid for fighting.

[Master]

sven ottke

It's been the popular thing to say when his name comes up. But if people where to actually watch his fights instead of going by what others say they'll see that a case can be made for Ottke winning every of his fights. Sven Ottke should be in the HOF

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How about the Robin Reid fight? At one point the ref almost disqualified Reid for fighting.

was going to post the same thing, the ref told off Reid for hitting Ottke too hard.

[Dark Lord Al]

sven ottke

It's been the popular thing to say when his name comes up. But if people where to actually watch his fights instead of going by what others say they'll see that a case can be made for Ottke winning every of his fights. Sven Ottke should be in the HOF

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How about the Robin Reid fight? At one point the ref almost disqualified Reid for fighting.

was going to post the same thing, the ref told off Reid for hitting Ottke too hard.

Double standards , that's the same Reid who in many peoples opinions beat the unbeaten Calzaghe.

[Violent Demise]

sven ottke

It's been the popular thing to say when his name comes up. But if people where to actually watch his fights instead of going by what others say they'll see that a case can be made for Ottke winning every of his fights. Sven Ottke should be in the HOF

4

How about the Robin Reid fight? At one point the ref almost disqualified Reid for fighting.

sven ottke

It's been the popular thing to say when his name comes up. But if people where to actually watch his fights instead of going by what others say they'll see that a case can be made for Ottke winning every of his fights. Sven Ottke should be in the HOF

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How about the Robin Reid fight? At one point the ref almost disqualified Reid for fighting.

was going to post the same thing, the ref told off Reid for hitting Ottke too hard.

Bullshit. If people were to really actually pay attention to the fight themselves instead of going by what other people say they'll see the ref is warning Reid about thumbing. Not about hitting him in the face. I mean come on. I can't believe so many people still actually think the ref warned Reid about hitting Ottke in the face. That's just dumb. Reid lost that fight cuz he let the ref take him out his game

[Spicoli]

Good thread, I'm sure if you go back far enough we could still make this 1,000 pages. First one that jumps to my mind was JC Chavez sr against Frankie Randall in the rematch, complete crock of shit. The ref actually rules the headbutt unintentional and then proceeds to take a point anyways, he probably somehow knew Chavez needed it on the cards or something. Not to mention it wasn't that bad a cut Chavez could have fought on, it was a clear fix imo.

Thought about that one but they went to cards, Ive always thought Chavez 'opted out' of that one and Randall was royally screwed over. It reminded me of Honeyghan- Vaca 1 as Lloyd was docked, though fortunate for him he got an immediate rematch. They stripped him for some BS non 15 round title fight politics? Still think Randall was on his way to stopping Chavez in there!

[Kirkland Laing]

Chavez Taylor. The worst one ever.

[p4pking]

Guess so, but the point deduction on a clearly accidental butt is what gave Chavez the fight on the cards, and the cutt was nothing major at all. I wonder if Chavez didn't know the deal somehow as well, he couldn't have felt confident he was winning. He was the last guy you'd accuse of being a quitter, but the shoe fits perfectly in that one. Randall had his number, there's a reason they didn't have an instant rubber match to I suspect.

[Master]

Tyson was taking a severe beating against Douglas every round including where he knocked down Buster. Had he seen the final bell he would have got the shady decision.

I also think Hopkins was carrying Oscar because he wanted a rematch to make even more money.

[ykdadamaja]

Alexander vs. Bradley comes to mind. Fight shouldn't have been stopped. If there is one fighter I am praying gets beaten for about 9-9 rounds and then gets brutally stopped is Tim Bradley. Too many gift decisions and shady wins.

[El Kabong]

Roberto Duran vs Ken Buchanan

Don't get me wrong Roberto Duran is P4P one of the greatest fighters of all time, but he won that title by stoppage due to one hell of a low blow. He was going to win on the cards but still it kind of tarnishes the win.