Remember Occupy Wall Street

[Kirkland Laing]

Kirkland, what do we have in common with the OWS crowd? I don't see much that I can relate to them on,but maybe u know something I don't. Also, if ur main point is to be anti-corporatist n u cover yourself in gap clothing n drink Starbucks coffee, yes, u r a hypocrite n it negates ur argument. Just like the idiots protesting war n holding peace signs while throwing bottles at cops n military members. That is an ignorant crowd that occupied and basically accom

If you're earning less than a couple of hundred thousand a year and especially if you're making less than a hundred then you're part of the 99% who are having their ages cut, their hours increased, their pensions and benefits removed or cut, their jobs outsourced and their standard of living eroded.

The OWS people don't live in Anarcho-Syndlacist communes.




They're part of the capitalist system too and are quite happy for it to continue as long as the system is changed so that the prosperity created by economic growth is broadly shared, not just corraled by the top-earning sliver of society.

There is a good economic reason for more broadly-shared prospeirty too. The number one main economic problem now is lack of demand meaning consequent lack of investment, a vicious circle that means the economy doesn't grow -- like now. All the money going to the top sliver means that the 99% don't have money to spend, there is no demand in the economy (70% of the US economy is consumer spending) and so no investment/economic growth. And as all that money keeps accumulating to the top 1% they don't spend ot, they just invest it and this creates huge speculative bubbles in financial markets leading to massive busts (what happened in 2008. So Occupy are actually smart capitalists. Things won't improve properly until what Occupy wants happens.

[Andre]

The real issues are lost in the crowd for the most part. Theres 'rent a crowd' these days. A group with a beef of some sorts go to persons who address whole groups and get them onside. They offer them something down the track for the backing, it happens all the time out here. Then you have the dupe a crowd into backing you up by getting them emotionally involved without educating them on it. Then you the get your Union to lean on their Union for added numbers.
That adds up to a smoke and mirrors game with 88% of marchers or occupiers not knowing exactly why they are really there.

Personally Im all for the psychopathic snipers against messy hits on marchers conglomerate.

[Kirkland Laing]

You can tell Occupy have the establishment worried because the media are focusing on individual personalities rather than what Occupy are saying.

During the time the media were forced to coverage Occupy they'd cluster round, for instance, one random antisemitic nutter who turned up at the camp. New York is chock full of random nutters, in some parts of Manhattan you can throw a stone and hit three of them, so some nutter attracted to all the cameras and action being filmed and being made the public face of Occupy tells you everything you need to know about this.

Like Assange and Snowden and others the focus is on the person, their personality and character and not what they've revealed/have to say.

[Andre]

Yeah and people love having there focus taken away from the real issues so they personally dont have to act on their conscious.That goes for the large percentage of all the talkers on both sides of this. They use the reverse stance as an excuse to do nothing but point the finger.

[El Kabong]

[El Kabong]