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    Default Re: froch didnt do terrible in the fight against groves

    Quote Originally Posted by Solzier71 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamita View Post
    Groves is the best British fighter right now.. I was in awe watching him fight with so much conviction. That's was exactly the kind of attitude all young fighters should bring to a fight.

    Froch talked that shit and got owned. lol The knockdown punch by Groves was one of the most beautiful right hands ive seen in a while. It was thrown at a perfect time and the placement couldnt have been better. That punch was thrown with so much force it fuckin landed twice, went right through his chin and landed on the collar bone..

    Froch is done
    Was that the perfect punch that Froch got up from?
    It was a combination of his granite chin and champion's pride that got him back up. That's his main asset. Ability to take punishment like a punching bag.

    Anyone else got hit by that thunder punch they would have got carried out on a stretcher.

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    Default Re: froch didnt do terrible in the fight against groves

    Quote Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamita View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamita View Post
    Groves is the best British fighter right now.. I was in awe watching him fight with so much conviction. That's was exactly the kind of attitude all young fighters should bring to a fight.

    Froch talked that shit and got owned. lol The knockdown punch by Groves was one of the most beautiful right hands ive seen in a while. It was thrown at a perfect time and the placement couldnt have been better. That punch was thrown with so much force it fuckin landed twice, went right through his chin and landed on the collar bone..

    Froch is done
    Was that the perfect punch that Froch got up from?
    It was a combination of his granite chin and champion's pride that got him back up. That's his main asset. Ability to take punishment like a punching bag.

    Anyone else got hit by that thunder punch they would have got carried out on a stretcher.
    That shot was right on the button. You have to be a hard man to get up from that shot.

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    Default Re: froch didnt do terrible in the fight against groves

    I had Froch 5 down and all over the place getting old and no answers.

    However I thin it had turned and he would have got the stoppage in next round or so.

    Wasn't his fault but he has to give the rematch or retire (Lewis - Vitali option really)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark TKO View Post
    I had Froch 5 down and all over the place getting old and no answers.

    However I thin it had turned and he would have got the stoppage in next round or so.

    Wasn't his fault but he has to give the rematch or retire (Lewis - Vitali option really)
    It would look real bad if he doesn't give a rematch.. People are going to question that victory forever

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    Default Re: froch didnt do terrible in the fight against groves

    Styles make fights , Froch has always been easy to hit , Groves fought a good fight , and well the stoppage was a joke.

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    i just dont see how froch looked any different than normal. groves was just sharper and landed better counters. the difference between this fight and his other fights against counter punchers is that groves hits hard. he made froch fight more timid. i think that groves was just the better man in the ring. i dont think it had anything to do with froch getting old. just like when he fought kessler this last time. froch won but still had a tough time against somebody who was a little sharper than him and was willing to exchange. groves just happened to be a better version of kessler.

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    Quote Originally Posted by powerpuncher View Post
    i just dont see how froch looked any different than normal. groves was just sharper and landed better counters. the difference between this fight and his other fights against counter punchers is that groves hits hard. he made froch fight more timid. i think that groves was just the better man in the ring. i dont think it had anything to do with froch getting old. just like when he fought kessler this last time. froch won but still had a tough time against somebody who was a little sharper than him and was willing to exchange. groves just happened to be a better version of kessler.
    He kept Kessler on the End of his jab and Mikkel indulged him. Groves was having none of it, the difference is huge. Froch didn't just look old he looked confused, out of ideas and clearly scared at points. I don't think he is frightened of anybody but the thought of the embarrassment he would suffer (after all his mouth in the build up) should what he thought was impossible come true, was his downfall. Carl dug his own trap to fall into and used the stuff he dug out to build another mountain to climb afterwards.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greenbeanz View Post
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    i just dont see how froch looked any different than normal. groves was just sharper and landed better counters. the difference between this fight and his other fights against counter punchers is that groves hits hard. he made froch fight more timid. i think that groves was just the better man in the ring. i dont think it had anything to do with froch getting old. just like when he fought kessler this last time. froch won but still had a tough time against somebody who was a little sharper than him and was willing to exchange. groves just happened to be a better version of kessler.
    He kept Kessler on the End of his jab and Mikkel indulged him. Groves was having none of it, the difference is huge. Froch didn't just look old he looked confused, out of ideas and clearly scared at points. I don't think he is frightened of anybody but the thought of the embarrassment he would suffer (after all his mouth in the build up) should what he thought was impossible come true, was his downfall. Carl dug his own trap to fall into and used the stuff he dug out to build another mountain to climb afterwards.
    thats why i said the difference was that groves was sharper than kessler was. so basically, froch had a tough time against an aged kessler and groves was significantly better than that version of kessler.

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    Its styles though, Froch is comfortable fighting a Kessler fight, less thinking, more brawling. It wasn't until he was nicely beat up did he come alive against Groves.

    On the knock down he was positioned horribly. It was like watching Hatton all over again. The big, invincible, I AM. Then he gets nailed.

    Froch took some huge shots in there, the more he took, the stronger he seemed to become. Massive overhand rights to the chin and he started to just walk through them, when he's in rage mode, there aren't many better. The problem is he doesn't seem to have a boxing brain, to adapt and box, only once have I ever thought he tactically outsmarted another fighter. Other than that he just windmills through.

    I actually think De Gale would give Froch fits as well, simply because of style. He would expose all of those massive flaws all over again. Where as GGG, who most would say was better, could possibly suit Froch more as he would be ready to war as well.

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    Lets not blame froch.

    Blame the ref.

    Froch got the beating of his life but still came back like a champion.

    Groves deserved to win and might have won if not for the stoppage.

    We all know froch is in his prime in the championship rounds and WAS starting to improve.

    Froch looked like he came from the pub tonight and straight in the ring.

    He was slow, nervous and awkard.

    Groves made him that way though.

    What a great future groves has...

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    Toe it seemed as though froch wasn't even there.
    It was the froch that fought taylor I saw the other night.

    The new froch who beat bute was sharp. Wasn't the same on Saturday.

    The stoppage was on its way but sure we won't ever know.

    Some people think that groves was in position with his wits to suddenly move out the way! Froch was ripe at that point and to me groves was downhill!!

    I wonder how groves made that huge gash on the back of carl head as the world thinks groves didn't hit carl
    Twice with haymakers to the back of his head

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    I know what everyone's saying but is everyone trying to say that froch wssnt gonna get the stoppage?
    Why was groves covering up like Abraham tight against the ropes?
    Why did froch fight back when hit but groves didn't?
    Those shots at the stoppage were crushing groves as the ropes help him up!!

    His head was going back like butes? Did nobody see that? It's hard to see as all the eyes are on the punches groves landed and not on what froch was landing to the sides and body up
    Close from round 2.

    The stoppage was early but people gotta give froch a break as he was coming on and very strong and by that time knew he had taken George's biggest and best but had yet done his best which was seconds from coming!
    Just really think groves was on his way out due to using up everything trying to get froch out in the first half.

    I also think carl turned up unprepared and thinking he had it in a bag.

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    Default Re: froch didnt do terrible in the fight against groves

    Quote Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamita View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Mark TKO View Post
    I had Froch 5 down and all over the place getting old and no answers.

    However I thin it had turned and he would have got the stoppage in next round or so.

    Wasn't his fault but he has to give the rematch or retire (Lewis - Vitali option really)
    It would look real bad if he doesn't give a rematch.. People are going to question that victory forever
    Rematch or retire is pathetic. Ruined Lewis' image in my mind. He should rematch or fight another top fighter eg Ward, GGG or someone coming down from light heavy. Retire just shows he knows he got lucky and doesnt have it in him any more, just like Lewis.

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    Default Re: froch didnt do terrible in the fight against groves

    Quote Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamita View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Solzier71 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamita View Post
    Groves is the best British fighter right now.. I was in awe watching him fight with so much conviction. That's was exactly the kind of attitude all young fighters should bring to a fight.

    Froch talked that shit and got owned. lol The knockdown punch by Groves was one of the most beautiful right hands ive seen in a while. It was thrown at a perfect time and the placement couldnt have been better. That punch was thrown with so much force it fuckin landed twice, went right through his chin and landed on the collar bone..

    Froch is done
    Was that the perfect punch that Froch got up from?
    It was a combination of his granite chin and champion's pride that got him back up. That's his main asset. Ability to take punishment like a punching bag.

    Anyone else got hit by that thunder punch they would have got carried out on a stretcher.
    Very true. It was a great punch that would have knocked over mountains but fair play to Froch. He got up...but to me. Groves had his number and I think if the rematch happens Froch could get embarrassed

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