154 lbs amatuer boxer VS NFL player with some streetfighting experience

[Beanflicker]

Boxing = boxer

Streetfight = NFL guy

[greynotsoold]

A young guy that boxed with me for awhile in the mid 90s got himself into some trouble and had to do some time (at that privately run facility outside Baker, CA, for those familiar with the area). When he came home he was all fired up to know about Jesse James Leija- I'm sure most of you know who he is.
When I asked him why he told me about a guy he'd been locked up with. This guy was a black guy, small and slight built, but he got in a fight with three guys and lit them up like it was nothing, bobbing and weaving and throwing textbook punches. The kid I knew got to talking about him and learned that the guy used to box, and told the guy that he must have been great and could have been champ.
The guy said no, no way, he wasn't even an decent pro. He had been a real good amateur, great record, thought he was going to the top. Until he fought Jesse James and got knocked out. This was early on in their careers but he gave it up because he realized that there were other guys out there even better than Leija.

[AdamGB]

Who wins what?

Ping Pong? Mario Party? A street fight? Boxing?

Spam.

[Spicoli]

I've always thought when someone talked about having a street fighting style it just meant they didn't know anything about throwing or avoiding a punch.

How's that boxing career of Mark gastineau and Kimbo going

[Hulk]

I've always thought when someone talked about having a street fighting style it just meant they didn't know anything about throwing or avoiding a punch.

How's that boxing career of Mark gastineau and Kimbo going

Kimbo is undefeated 7-0 lol

[Beanflicker]

I've always thought when someone talked about having a street fighting style it just meant they didn't know anything about throwing or avoiding a punch.

How's that boxing career of Mark gastineau and Kimbo going

Kimbo is undefeated 7-0 lol

LOL, and because of his name he makes many times more than what much more skilled prospects are making. So I'd say his boxing career is going just fine.

[Spicoli]

I've always thought when someone talked about having a street fighting style it just meant they didn't know anything about throwing or avoiding a punch.

How's that boxing career of Mark gastineau and Kimbo going

Kimbo is undefeated 7-0 lol

LOL, and because of his name he makes many times more than what much more skilled prospects are making. So I'd say his boxing career is going just fine.

Lol and he'd still get his ass royally kicked by a guy with the slightest bit of real boxing skill, which is kinda the point of thread but yeh he'll be payed well when the gimmick wears off.

[FinitoElDinamita]

I've always thought when someone talked about having a street fighting style it just meant they didn't know anything about throwing or avoiding a punch.

How's that boxing career of Mark gastineau and Kimbo going

Today's Kimbo is more than just a streetfighter imo.. His boxing technique is tolerable..

There arent too many streetfighters with punching form like his..

[greynotsoold]

I've always thought when someone talked about having a street fighting style it just meant they didn't know anything about throwing or avoiding a punch.

How's that boxing career of Mark gastineau and Kimbo going

Today's Kimbo is more than just a streetfighter imo.. His boxing technique is tolerable..

There arent too many streetfighters with punching form like his..

A guy from my neighborhood- he's almost as old as me now, so i suspect he's slowed down some- used to punch like joe louis. He threw the hardest right hand i have ever seen and it was real short and straight from the shoulder. He told me once that, had he known where to find a boxing gym when he was a kid, he never would have gone to prison.

[jahmez]

Put it this way - how many punches does the average "tough guy" throw a year? Even a "street fighter" probably throws a maximum of five a week and they don't count because the bloke he belted was probably pissed, outnumbered 3 to 1 and had his body turned to the side towards some glamour he would otherwise later fuck. More importantly, how many punches are thrown at the tough guy a year? Even the most untalented, part - time enthusiast who hits the gym three days a week still should be throwing around 1,000 punches per session against all kinds of apparatus under the supervision of a trainer and mates who know how to fight. More importantly once he starts even the most rudimentary 3 rounds of sparring he'll be forced to learn how to avoid at least 300 punches or so per session. Unless the footy guy just bumrushes and tackles him, if the little bloke opens up big boy is going to be absolutely clueless.

[FinitoElDinamita]

[Spicoli]

I've always thought when someone talked about having a street fighting style it just meant they didn't know anything about throwing or avoiding a punch.

How's that boxing career of Mark gastineau and Kimbo going

Today's Kimbo is more than just a streetfighter imo.. His boxing technique is tolerable..

There arent too many streetfighters with punching form like his..

I can def respect a guy for looking to improve and doing the time. But from what I've seen it is glorified street fighting in a professional ring. When your introduced as a 'Internet sensation, street fighting champion' or whatever?! That's just all whack man.

[X]

yes, yes, yes ..... But the real important question we should be debating is who would win between a small Ethiopian campfire and a size 9 sock with a hole in the toe.

[beenKOed]

yes, yes, yes ..... But the real important question we should be debating is who would win between a small Ethiopian campfire and a size 9 sock with a hole in the toe.

I was thinking more about a pecan vs a walnut with a small crack.

[bigstinkybug]

A young guy that boxed with me for awhile in the mid 90s got himself into some trouble and had to do some time (at that privately run facility outside Baker, CA, for those familiar with the area). When he came home he was all fired up to know about Jesse James Leija- I'm sure most of you know who he is.
When I asked him why he told me about a guy he'd been locked up with. This guy was a black guy, small and slight built, but he got in a fight with three guys and lit them up like it was nothing, bobbing and weaving and throwing textbook punches. The kid I knew got to talking about him and learned that the guy used to box, and told the guy that he must have been great and could have been champ.
The guy said no, no way, he wasn't even an decent pro. He had been a real good amateur, great record, thought he was going to the top. Until he fought Jesse James and got knocked out. This was early on in their careers but he gave it up because he realized that there were other guys out there even better than Leija.

*as a 147pound fighter...amateur, I would've broke the NFL players jaw, if I was at my best... not talking bullshit, it's just the way it was. sooo, if a fighter ,amateur, as good as they say...amateur wins easily.
this is the way it was for me... I ran about 5 miles a day... 3 forward and 2 backwards with 3 pound weights in each hand... at my best, I took it easy on a daily bases. but make no bones about it, we got down at san Fernando. I remember some guys from another gym coming into San Fernando and watching us spar...he said"damn, u guys kill eachother in here"...
lieja was pro... I was amateur...they toyed with the idea of putting us in together ,once...but that was it. I outweighed him by 15 pounds maybe even 20 pounds... he was a cocky little fuker... but I think they thought someone would get hurt... I had a sexy left hook,very nasty... and James wasn't no punk...it was a bad combination.