Marquez would fuck Cotto up @ catchweight

[Mr140]

I think Cotto can make 147 i don't see why not he is not a huge Lmw or anything be another Mexico vs island thing going be some money in it. Both are not getting younger i Jmm not might as well get some more money for retirement before calling a day be a good idea.

[FinitoElDinamita]

I think Cotto can make 147 i don't see why not he is not a huge Lmw or anything be another Mexico vs island thing going be some money in it. Both are not getting younger i Jmm not might as well get some more money for retirement before calling a day be a good idea.

He certainly can make 147, even 140 if he wasn't lazy.. IT's well known that Cotto is lazy in the gym, being his own boss in the gym and often training himself even..

I dont know about his work ethic under Roach but he's been a certain way for a long time..

Cotto is a natural 140-147 and he could make the weight if he really tried..

He sure aint no JMW..

[Mr140]

Yea thats what i mean why is he not at 147 i mean Bradley fight, Pac fight, and also Jmm fight. Lmw has the ginger thats about it Trout and the other guys name starts with a L are not big attractions. i mean at this point the WW have the bigger names and paydays really no comparison.

[FinitoElDinamita]

Yea thats what i mean why is he not at 147 i mean Bradley fight, Pac fight, and also Jmm fight. Lmw has the ginger thats about it Trout and the other guys name starts with a L are not big attractions. i mean at this point the WW have the bigger names and paydays really no comparison.

You're right and that's another point I want to make.. There are two reasons why Cotto is blowing himself up to fight at 154..

1. He's too lazy to make 147

2. There are too many killers at 147

He fights at 154 cuz the competition is easier.. Businesswise, there is no reason why he should be fighting in a shallow division when there are shitload of huge paydays at 147..

[Mr140]

Well he starts seeing the dollar signs he may put down the junk food. I don't think he beats any of the top WW right now but i don't think he can beat the top Lmw either might as well make more money. I mean as a fighter there no pension got to get all you can before your out of this sport.

[Spicoli]

He fought the top dog at 147 and was demolished. He jumped up because..age, body, and a guy named Yuri Foreman holding a trinket aka money chip for him. He builds up, gets biggest name and payday at 154 with Mayweather and losses. The Trout loss was his screwed pooch in what was thought another rebound fight by more than a few to bigger things, see Canelo..now he's rebuilding yet again. A go at Marquez may get him a 'name' but not a current statement on where he is actually at in career. Molina holds a 154 trinket ffs. Cotto is not going to wake up one morning and be reborn at 140-147. You don't get that time or the years back.

[TitoFan]

Yea thats what i mean why is he not at 147 i mean Bradley fight, Pac fight, and also Jmm fight. Lmw has the ginger thats about it Trout and the other guys name starts with a L are not big attractions. i mean at this point the WW have the bigger names and paydays really no comparison.

You're right and that's another point I want to make.. There are two reasons why Cotto is blowing himself up to fight at 154..

1. He's too lazy to make 147

2. There are too many killers at 147

He fights at 154 cuz the competition is easier.. Businesswise, there is no reason why he should be fighting in a shallow division when there are shitload of huge paydays at 147..

Cotto's "too lazy to make 147", but it's quite alright for JMM to be fighting at that weight. That's pretty damn hilarious even by your standards. Especially when you consider that JMM started as a featherweight, while Cotto began pretty much at junior welter. I actually considered not posting, because you're pretty transparent with your attempts to bait. But your ridiculous claims are a bit much to just let slide.

Think about it (at least try)... One guy travels all the way from 126 to 147 and above, and it's ok. But the other guy, who started at 140, is considered "too lazy" because he can't make 147 anymore. Priceless.

Opinions fall along predictable lines, with some agreeing with you and others not. I'll continue the predictability and state that of course I'd favor Cotto. Adding, however, that I've always been a huge JMM fan, and consider him an all-time great. However, Cotto is an all-time great in his own right, and with more tools in his arsenal than you've ever given him credit for.

So for the purposes of this particular discussion, I'll forego the technical reasons why.... as I know they'd be fully wasted on you, and I've already used up my self-allotted 3 minutes of attention to your thread.

[Mr140]

El Kabong I have to disagree he was never the man at 140, 147 and 154 there were other champs who were there and hand the ring rating also lineal champs. Also he lost to Margarito in the fight to be the top guy now a lot shit on that fight still lost the damn thing. Also let me say this what name at elite level does he have on his resume. The only one was Mosley at 36 which could of been a draw ended up being a md. I say this i am kinda sick of people putting down Bradley not power puncher but got a hell of chin and very well rounded i don't see why he could not pull off a ud against Cotto done just as well at top level fights if not better. When it came to his big fights you got Mosley fucking close and, Pac destroyed him, Mayweather he gave a good fight but clearly lost and was looking like he was done by the 12 and Margarito which he lost. Now he did comeback and beat Margarito but that was after he got the living shit beat out of him by Pac and Mosley and scandal thing so how good was that win. Cotto a good fighter and all but his resume lacks a tad and winning the big fights kinda came short most of the time i just think 147 has the bigger pay days is all.

[FinitoElDinamita]

Yea thats what i mean why is he not at 147 i mean Bradley fight, Pac fight, and also Jmm fight. Lmw has the ginger thats about it Trout and the other guys name starts with a L are not big attractions. i mean at this point the WW have the bigger names and paydays really no comparison.

You're right and that's another point I want to make.. There are two reasons why Cotto is blowing himself up to fight at 154..

1. He's too lazy to make 147

2. There are too many killers at 147

He fights at 154 cuz the competition is easier.. Businesswise, there is no reason why he should be fighting in a shallow division when there are shitload of huge paydays at 147..

Cotto's "too lazy to make 147", but it's quite alright for JMM to be fighting at that weight. That's pretty damn hilarious even by your standards. Especially when you consider that JMM started as a featherweight, while Cotto began pretty much at junior welter. I actually considered not posting, because you're pretty transparent with your attempts to bait. But your ridiculous claims are a bit much to just let slide.

Think about it (at least try)... One guy travels all the way from 126 to 147 and above, and it's ok. But the other guy, who started at 140, is considered "too lazy" because he can't make 147 anymore. Priceless.

Opinions fall along predictable lines, with some agreeing with you and others not. I'll continue the predictability and state that of course I'd favor Cotto. Adding, however, that I've always been a huge JMM fan, and consider him an all-time great. However, Cotto is an all-time great in his own right, and with more tools in his arsenal than you've ever given him credit for.

So for the purposes of this particular discussion, I'll forego the technical reasons why.... as I know they'd be fully wasted on you, and I've already used up my self-allotted 3 minutes of attention to your thread.

You are not understanding the concept, Tito..There are different levels and circumstances when moving up weight divisions.. A natural featherweight like Marquez moving up two divisions to 147 and a natural 140-147 guy in Cotto jumping up to 154 are totally different.. totally different..

IT's easier for a natural 147 guy to boil down to 140 or move up to 154 as opposed to a naturally small guy like Marquez jumping up multiple weight divisions..

[TitoFan]

Yea thats what i mean why is he not at 147 i mean Bradley fight, Pac fight, and also Jmm fight. Lmw has the ginger thats about it Trout and the other guys name starts with a L are not big attractions. i mean at this point the WW have the bigger names and paydays really no comparison.

You're right and that's another point I want to make.. There are two reasons why Cotto is blowing himself up to fight at 154..

1. He's too lazy to make 147

2. There are too many killers at 147

He fights at 154 cuz the competition is easier.. Businesswise, there is no reason why he should be fighting in a shallow division when there are shitload of huge paydays at 147..

Cotto's "too lazy to make 147", but it's quite alright for JMM to be fighting at that weight. That's pretty damn hilarious even by your standards. Especially when you consider that JMM started as a featherweight, while Cotto began pretty much at junior welter. I actually considered not posting, because you're pretty transparent with your attempts to bait. But your ridiculous claims are a bit much to just let slide.

Think about it (at least try)... One guy travels all the way from 126 to 147 and above, and it's ok. But the other guy, who started at 140, is considered "too lazy" because he can't make 147 anymore. Priceless.

Opinions fall along predictable lines, with some agreeing with you and others not. I'll continue the predictability and state that of course I'd favor Cotto. Adding, however, that I've always been a huge JMM fan, and consider him an all-time great. However, Cotto is an all-time great in his own right, and with more tools in his arsenal than you've ever given him credit for.

So for the purposes of this particular discussion, I'll forego the technical reasons why.... as I know they'd be fully wasted on you, and I've already used up my self-allotted 3 minutes of attention to your thread.

You are not understanding the concept, Tito..There are different levels and circumstances when moving up weight divisions.. A natural featherweight like Marquez moving up two divisions to 147 and a natural 140-147 guy in Cotto jumping up to 154 are totally different.. totally different..

IT's easier for a natural 147 guy to boil down to 140 or move up to 154 as opposed to a naturally small guy like Marquez jumping up multiple weight divisions..

Oh, I understand biased double standards quite perfectly, thank you.

[Hulk]

I think Cotto is a damn good fighter and a lot bigger, stronger, more powerful than Marquez.

An aging, hittable, more stationary Marquez could be in trouble with Cotto.

Marquez could also outbox Cotto and befuddle him. However, I see Cotto being a daunting task for JMM. Just because he seems to have Mannys number doesn't necessarily mean he'd whip Cotto.

[fan johnny]

The title of the thread may be true if you are talking aboit a weight drained cotto in the later rounds, but throughing out the weight issues marquez has never been able to handle the outside style. So if your toughting skill wise I completely disagree. Cotto would out point marquez.