Froch: No rematch, Groves had his chance and he blew it!

[Dark Lord Al]

If froch doesn't rematch groves I will have lost a lot of respect for him .

[imp]

If froch doesn't rematch groves I will have lost a lot of respect for him .

Froch took a long think about this and made this choice. He is a great warrior but groves completely threw him out of his game.

Froch did finish stronger but he has never ever been knocked down like that and it affected him deeply.

[Galaxy]

If it looks like a duck & sounds like a duck, then it probably is...

[Beanz]

Eric, the "English" thing is a bit of a red herring.

[Dean Duke]

Froch knows that Groves wont make the same mistakes again. The fans want it, the tv people want it, Groves wants it, it will be massive money and Froch dont fancy it. I never thought i would say this about Froch but he is a ducker, if Groves is so easy fight him again for more money than any fight in any place on the planet fucking pussy cunt.

[erics44]

Eric, the "English" thing is a bit of a red herring.

how come?

[bzkfn]

Eric, the "English" thing is a bit of a red herring.

how come?

Because we keep telling you that its bullshit. Like I said, I want Burns to rematch Beltran because they fucking robbed the guy and I'm getting a bit sick of early stoppages and dodgy decisions going down under our Jurisdiction. We are not Germany and we should not be robbing fighters like this. We're getting a bad reputation and the board should be fucking ashamed of themselves for allowing it to happen without doing anything about it.

[erics44]

Eric, the "English" thing is a bit of a red herring.

how come?

Because we keep telling you that its bullshit. Like I said, I want Burns to rematch Beltran because they fucking robbed the guy and I'm getting a bit sick of early stoppages and dodgy decisions going down under our Jurisdiction. We are not Germany and we should not be robbing fighters like this. We're getting a bad reputation and the board should be fucking ashamed of themselves for allowing it to happen without doing anything about it.

the burns beltram fight has almost been forgotten, it wasnt mentioned on here after a couple of days and has only really come to light again because of froch groves

and burns and beltram was a blatent robbery

froch won by TKO

if burns beltram had ended the way froch groves did then at the end of the fight someone would have said - "that was a bit of an early stoppage", and then his mate would have said "yeah it was wasnt it", then the first fella would have said "shall we get a kebab"

and that would have been that

[bzkfn]

Eric, the "English" thing is a bit of a red herring.

how come?

Because we keep telling you that its bullshit. Like I said, I want Burns to rematch Beltran because they fucking robbed the guy and I'm getting a bit sick of early stoppages and dodgy decisions going down under our Jurisdiction. We are not Germany and we should not be robbing fighters like this. We're getting a bad reputation and the board should be fucking ashamed of themselves for allowing it to happen without doing anything about it.

the burns beltram fight has almost been forgotten, it wasnt mentioned on here after a couple of days and has only really come to light again because of froch groves

and burns and beltram was a blatent robbery

froch won by TKO

if burns beltram had ended the way froch groves did then at the end of the fight someone would have said - "that was a bit of an early stoppage", and then his mate would have said "yeah it was wasnt it", then the first fella would have said "shall we get a kebab"

and that would have been that

Again, I didn't think that. I know Burns shouldn't be champion. I never said "oh well". I've always bitched about it to my friends. And I'm not a massive fan of kebabs, would rather have a burger.

[#1FightFan]

i always liked froch, BUT... if he dont give the young guy a rematch he is a scared douche!!! people do not forget that shit....

[Dia bando]

Groves V Froch is a good rematch, to be honest Froch has not a hope in hell of beating Ward,
and the fight that would generate Carl a big pay day, is giving George a rematch.
There is no interest in a Ward V Froch match, the outcome would be Carl gets his ears boxed off,
what the fans want to see is Froch V Groves, a great fight.

Carl has not covered himself in glory after the fight, he is still making stupid and daft comments
now a few weeks later.!!!!!!!!
Froch is a tough honest type of fighter in the ring, outside he comes across as a very unlikable
individual , on the 2 occasions he's lost he was very ungracious in defeat, and the same can be
said when he wins sorry chaps its a fact.
How do like his new name Carl The Cock Froch, suits you sir.

[ykdadamaja]

Groves did blow it. Did Ali blow it against Liston when everything and 1 billion stars were against him? Did Douglas blow it against Tyson? Did Holyfield blow it against Douglas? Did Rahman blow it against Lewis in the first fight? Bowe against Holyfield and Hide against Bentt?

NO... they finished it in the ring, when all odds were highly against them. Not as much as a case of Bowe vs. Holyfield, but all other fights mentioned had fighters come in against a champion, a champion that was heavily favoured.

Groves simply had to win that fight, in the ring. There are, sometimes, no "two-sies" in boxing, the way Arum made four-sies out of Pac and JMM.

When you fight the champion that one time, you had BETTER win that one time. Or else, you simply have to wait your turn.

The rematch clauses are there to protect the champion in the event something happens and the champ loses, he then exercises the clause IF he wants more of the same.

If Froch had lost then Froch had a right to ask for a rematch, no matter how people looked at the fight- and particularly if a rematch clause was in the fight. He was the champion, the losers and the contenders don't get to set the date and person they want to fight for a belt with.

That's just the way it works. Not saying Groves doesn't deserve a rematch, but he doesn't "have" to get a rematch at the next fight or at all, ever. UNLESS... he gets back to being a mandatory #1 for a belt that Froch has and there is no way out.

But he is far from being a mandatory #1 for any belt Froch has. In fact, he was lucky Froch gave him a title shot when so many were deserving above him.

[Dia bando]

Groves did blow it. Did Ali blow it against Liston when everything and 1 billion stars were against him? Did Douglas blow it against Tyson? Did Holyfield blow it against Douglas? Did Rahman blow it against Lewis in the first fight? Bowe against Holyfield and Hide against Bentt?

NO... they finished it in the ring, when all odds were highly against them. Not as much as a case of Bowe vs. Holyfield, but all other fights mentioned had fighters come in against a champion, a champion that was heavily favoured.

Groves simply had to win that fight, in the ring. There are, sometimes, no "two-sies" in boxing, the way Arum made four-sies out of Pac and JMM.

When you fight the champion that one time, you had BETTER win that one time. Or else, you simply have to wait your turn.

The rematch clauses are there to protect the champion in the event something happens and the champ loses, he then exercises the clause IF he wants more of the same.

If Froch had lost then Froch had a right to ask for a rematch, no matter how people looked at the fight- and particularly if a rematch clause was in the fight. He was the champion, the losers and the contenders don't get to set the date and person they want to fight for a belt with.

That's just the way it works. Not saying Groves doesn't deserve a rematch, but he doesn't "have" to get a rematch at the next fight or at all, ever. UNLESS... he gets back to being a mandatory #1 for a belt that Froch has and there is no way out.

But he is far from being a mandatory #1 for any belt Froch has. In fact, he was lucky Froch gave him a title shot when so many were deserving above him.

Froch was thinking it was going easy money it turn out be far from easy, on his back in the 1st round
out boxed he took a beating, his toughness got him through nothing more, he was out fought.
He disrespected George before the fight, and still does to this day Carl I will fight anyone Froch yes
when it suits it seems.
Groves is a nice guy and he does not have his head stuck up his own ass,!!!! were Carl does I enjoy
watching Carl fight, give us a rematch Carl the fans want it, but it seems you don't think Groves
is worthy of a rematch, Carl BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.