Sky Sports- Darren Barker v Felix Sturm - SATURDAY NIGHT CHAT THREAD

[bzkfn]

Well, that was brief. Sturm won that every which way. No going to the judges, no messing. Just came out firing on all cylinders and Barker was out of his depth. Big shame, but there we go.

Exactly out of his depth. How he won a world title is beyond me.

He won a world title by beating somebody who already had one. He dislocated his hip and was still throwing, give the guy a break.

Exactly @Greenbeanz. But it seemed a bit as I feared. Once he'd achieved the dream, the desire wasn't there anymore. Not sure I'd both with the rematch. Injuries are too much and I think he wouldn't win it anyway. And @Silkeyjoe, don't give us bullshit that Macklin is a deserving champion. That dude has lost every time he steps up and has the nerve to talk about levels. Barker would have beaten the sorry shit outta Macklin if he hadn't ran for the hills.

I didnt say Macks a deserving champ, I just said hes better then Barker. None of them are deserving champs. GGG is the middleweight champ. Until you beat him you are not deserving. Exception for Martinez.

Nobody will ever change my mind on this, Matthew Macklin is an average at best fighter. Barker would have boxed his head off. I think Murray is likely the best of them but the reason Macklin always loses when he steps up is because he aint that good. He woukd have lost to Geale if he'd got the shot. Barker's desire to win it won him the world title. I think as soon as he achieved that it was time to retire. And technically, GGG aint the middleweight champion until he beats Sergio Martinez.

[Silkeyjoe]

Barker, Murray and Mack have all lost everytime they been in at top level. Dont see how singling out Mack for this supports your argument. Barker is so fragile which is why he loses to Mack and Murray. They both break him down eventually. Both have ore pop then Sturm and Geale in my opinion and they were able to seriously hurt Barker.

[bzkfn]

Barker, Murray and Mack have all lost everytime they been in at top level. Dont see how singling out Mack for this supports your argument. Barker is so fragile which is why he loses to Mack and Murray. They both break him down eventually. Both have ore pop then Sturm and Geale in my opinion and they were able to seriously hurt Barker.

Barker stepped up and won a world title when it counted.

Murray was robbed in both his title fights for me.

Macklin has lost 3 times and has never won a really meaningful fight. Yet he talks how he is a level above. He grinds my gears, and you probably poked the bear. I really can't stand the cunt.

[Dark Lord Al]

GGG tears all a new asshole.

[Silkeyjoe]

GGG tears all a new asshole.

Definitely. Im not saying Macklins world class, just I think he beats Barker.

[bzkfn]

GGG tears all a new asshole.

Definitely. Im not saying Macklins world class, just I think he beats Barker.

I respectfully disagree. And GGG is the best, but technically he should beat Martinez to prove it.

[Silkeyjoe]

GGG tears all a new asshole.

Definitely. Im not saying Macklins world class, just I think he beats Barker.

I respectfully disagree. And GGG is the best, but technically he should beat Martinez to prove it.

Hard to beat people who wont fight you tho

[Dark Lord Al]

GGG tears all a new asshole.

Definitely. Im not saying Macklins world class, just I think he beats Barker.

I respectfully disagree. And GGG is the best, but technically he should beat Martinez to prove it.

Yes I agree Martinez needs to fight GGG so we can have a real champion. With no doubt who's the best.
Personally lee , Macklin , BArker , and Murray all get eaten alive by GGG.

[Master]

GGG is the new Martinez from a few years ago.

I rate Macklin then Barker then Murray in that order but I think their best days are over for Mack and Barker, Murray may be fresher. They should all fight one another now.