Mayweather- Pacquiao wont happen with Arum involved !

[ruthless rocco]

...and if you think boxing is a sport first and a business second-- then you're a moron!

[TitoFan]

All you guys can think about is why YOU don't get to see Manny and Floyd fight. BOO HOO!

We're boxing fans. What's wrong with that?

You're getting too emotional in your defense of Floyd and bashing of Arum. I'm not bashing Floyd nor am I a Floyd hater. I just think there's too many shenanigans in boxing that prevent the best fights from happening. And when the fighters themselves begin getting into the politics of the sport, it just makes things worse. No one's saying Arum should win a Nobel Peace prize anytime soon. Him and Don King are cut out of the same mold. But they've also done a lot of good for boxing, like them or not. And again... it's up to Pac to stand up for Pac's best interests. Floyd's hate for Arum shouldn't be a part of the equation. You're wrongly belittling fan interest in all this. If we don't demand the best fights take place..... then what's the point in having these fights at all? Who pays all the big bucks the fighters make for their fights? That's right... the FANS.

[TitoFan]

...and if you think boxing is a sport first and a business second-- then you're a moron!

No.... just obviously not as jaded as you.


BTW, let me correct you. Boxing is a sport first. If there was no boxing... there'd be no business. Following me so far? Yes... boxing is big business. But it is first and foremost a sport. We don't dole out PPV dollars to watch Floyd, Arum, Golden Boy, or anybody else haggle over multi-million dollar contracts. Well.... at least I don't.

Now, ratchet down your angry little tone.... get yourself a nice, cool drink.... and come back with an answer when you're no longer foaming at the mouth. Ok?

[ruthless rocco]

All you guys can think about is why YOU don't get to see Manny and Floyd fight. BOO HOO!

We're boxing fans. What's wrong with that?

You're getting too emotional in your defense of Floyd and bashing of Arum. I'm not bashing Floyd nor am I a Floyd hater. I just think there's too many shenanigans in boxing that prevent the best fights from happening. And when the fighters themselves begin getting into the politics of the sport, it just makes things worse. No one's saying Arum should win a Nobel Peace prize anytime soon. Him and Don King are cut out of the same mold. But they've also done a lot of good for boxing, like them or not. And again... it's up to Pac to stand up for Pac's best interests. Floyd's hate for Arum shouldn't be a part of the equation. You're wrongly belittling fan interest in all this. If we don't demand the best fights take place..... then what's the point in having these fights at all? Who pays all the big bucks the fighters make for their fights? That's right... the FANS.

My bad... You're right. The fighters...those guys that are literally killing themselves for our amusement--shouldn't get involved with the details or politics of the sport. They should just shut up and fight! They're clearly ruining the sport for all us money spending fans.

Whats the point in risking your life if you're giving 73% of your purse away to a fat fucks who have a stranglehold on the sport and don't care how they use or abuse you?

I don't see how you can say you're fan of boxing if knowing that guys are making less than 27% of their purses seems okay to you.

And yes, it makes me emotional to see idiots like you complain about being deprived of fights when you're just siting on your asses complaining about how these guys aren't dying for you the way you want them to.

[TitoFan]

All you guys can think about is why YOU don't get to see Manny and Floyd fight. BOO HOO!

We're boxing fans. What's wrong with that?

You're getting too emotional in your defense of Floyd and bashing of Arum. I'm not bashing Floyd nor am I a Floyd hater. I just think there's too many shenanigans in boxing that prevent the best fights from happening. And when the fighters themselves begin getting into the politics of the sport, it just makes things worse. No one's saying Arum should win a Nobel Peace prize anytime soon. Him and Don King are cut out of the same mold. But they've also done a lot of good for boxing, like them or not. And again... it's up to Pac to stand up for Pac's best interests. Floyd's hate for Arum shouldn't be a part of the equation. You're wrongly belittling fan interest in all this. If we don't demand the best fights take place..... then what's the point in having these fights at all? Who pays all the big bucks the fighters make for their fights? That's right... the FANS.

My bad... You're right. The fighters...those guys that are literally killing themselves for our amusement--shouldn't get involved with the details or politics of the sport. They should just shut up and fight! They're clearly ruining the sport for all us money spending fans.

Whats the point in risking your life if you're giving 73% of your purse away to a fat fucks who have a stranglehold on the sport and don't care how they use or abuse you?

I don't see how you can say you're fan of boxing if knowing that guys are making less than 27% of their purses seems okay to you.

And yes, it makes me emotional to see idiots like you complain about being deprived of fights when you're just siting on your asses complaining about how these guys aren't dying for you the way you want them to.

That's about 3 "idiots" and 2 "morons". I can see you're quite emotional about the subject. First... the fighters who are, (ahem)... "killing themselves for our amusement". A word of advice: Don't watch so many old Roman movies. These are not Christians being thrown to the lions in the Roman Colosseum. These are athletes who chose..... CHOSE.... to pursue what is inherently a dangerous career/ sport. No guns pointed at heads..... no threats if you don't go out there and put on some boxing gloves. No. Free will.

Ok now about the 27% purses. Well.... I don't know about you.... but 27% of $10 million is still a hell of a lot of money. Is it a fair share? Of course the hell not. But what am I going to solve by boycotting a fight because fighter "X" is not getting his fair share? Is that what we should be doing? I don't know. I'm not the emotional one here.

Oh... and about the part about me wanting the fighters to die the way I want them to. I mean.... I don't want to insult you or nothing, but....... Aren't you being a little bit of a drama queen? Seriously.

Anyway, and on a serious note..... weren't you ignoring my posts before? What the fuck made you go back on that? Miss me?

[TitoFan]

Listen Ruth.... love to stay and chat. But I gotta go and roam the city streets in search of people who might be killing themselves for my amusement. I'll see if those will die the way I want them to.

Meanwhile, I suggest a good laxative to resolve whatever is ailing you.

[ruthless rocco]

My bad... You're right. The fighters...those guys that are literally killing themselves for our amusement--shouldn't get involved with the details or politics of the sport. They should just shut up and fight! They're clearly ruining the sport for all us money spending fans.

Whats the point in risking your life if you're giving 73% of your purse away to a fat fucks who have a stranglehold on the sport and don't care how they use or abuse you?

I don't see how you can say you're fan of boxing if knowing that guys are making less than 27% of their purses seems okay to you.

And yes, it makes me emotional to see idiots like you complain about being deprived of fights when you're just siting on your asses complaining about how these guys aren't dying for you the way you want them to.

That's about 3 "idiots" and 2 "morons". I can see you're quite emotional about the subject. First... the fighters who are, (ahem)... "killing themselves for our amusement". A word of advice: Don't watch so many old Roman movies. These are not Christians being thrown to the lions in the Roman Colosseum. These are athletes who chose..... CHOSE.... to pursue what is inherently a dangerous career/ sport. No guns pointed at heads..... no threats if you don't go out there and put on some boxing gloves. No. Free will.

Ok now about the 27% purses. Well.... I don't know about you.... but 27% of $10 million is still a hell of a lot of money. Is it a fair share? Of course the hell not. But what am I going to solve by boycotting a fight because fighter "X" is not getting his fair share? Is that what we should be doing? I don't know. I'm not the emotional one here.

Oh... and about the part about me wanting the fighters to die the way I want them to. I mean.... I don't want to insult you or nothing, but....... Aren't you being a little bit of a drama queen? Seriously.

Anyway, and on a serious note..... weren't you ignoring my posts before? What the fuck made you go back on that? Miss me?

I really don't think you understand what I'm writing.
It's happened between you and I before. It doesn't matter what the content of my posts are... You just respond with remarks that don't address my points. I guess it makes you feel like you're debating with me. You may even feel like you're right because I have trouble countering your nonsensical counterpoints...but unless you respond to the actual content of my posts then I can't respond.

Also... Thanks for reminding me that I used to have you on ignore. I guess I'll have to do that again.

[beenKOed]

...and if you think boxing is a sport first and a business second-- then you're a moron!

You are right, boxing is a business, first, last and always especially at the promoter level. Think about it, what else could it be?

[beenKOed]

All you guys can think about is why YOU don't get to see Manny and Floyd fight. BOO HOO!

We're boxing fans. What's wrong with that?

You're getting too emotional in your defense of Floyd and bashing of Arum. I'm not bashing Floyd nor am I a Floyd hater. I just think there's too many shenanigans in boxing that prevent the best fights from happening. And when the fighters themselves begin getting into the politics of the sport, it just makes things worse. No one's saying Arum should win a Nobel Peace prize anytime soon. Him and Don King are cut out of the same mold. But they've also done a lot of good for boxing, like them or not. And again... it's up to Pac to stand up for Pac's best interests. Floyd's hate for Arum shouldn't be a part of the equation. You're wrongly belittling fan interest in all this. If we don't demand the best fights take place..... then what's the point in having these fights at all? Who pays all the big bucks the fighters make for their fights? That's right... the FANS.

My bad... You're right. The fighters...those guys that are literally killing themselves for our amusement--shouldn't get involved with the details or politics of the sport. They should just shut up and fight! They're clearly ruining the sport for all us money spending fans.

Whats the point in risking your life if you're giving 73% of your purse away to a fat fucks who have a stranglehold on the sport and don't care how they use or abuse you?

I don't see how you can say you're fan of boxing if knowing that guys are making less than 27% of their purses seems okay to you.

And yes, it makes me emotional to see idiots like you complain about being deprived of fights when you're just siting on your asses complaining about how these guys aren't dying for you the way you want them to.

That's about 3 "idiots" and 2 "morons". I can see you're quite emotional about the subject. First... the fighters who are, (ahem)... "killing themselves for our amusement". A word of advice: Don't watch so many old Roman movies. These are not Christians being thrown to the lions in the Roman Colosseum. These are athletes who chose..... CHOSE.... to pursue what is inherently a dangerous career/ sport. No guns pointed at heads..... no threats if you don't go out there and put on some boxing gloves. No. Free will.

Ok now about the 27% purses. Well.... I don't know about you.... but 27% of $10 million is still a hell of a lot of money. Is it a fair share? Of course the hell not. But what am I going to solve by boycotting a fight because fighter "X" is not getting his fair share? Is that what we should be doing? I don't know. I'm not the emotional one here.

Oh... and about the part about me wanting the fighters to die the way I want them to. I mean.... I don't want to insult you or nothing, but....... Aren't you being a little bit of a drama queen? Seriously.

Anyway, and on a serious note..... weren't you ignoring my posts before? What the fuck made you go back on that? Miss me?

I don't think he is being a drama queen. It's a fact that boxers take a chance every time they get in the ring. It's a fact that repeated blows to the head do damage the brain which can shorten a fighters life.

[Beanflicker]

I've read that Pacquioa gets 27% of his purse. The rest is kept by Arum.

BRUTAL. And out of that 27% he has to pay taxes, his camp costs, his entourage, and Freddie Roach takes a %.

No wonder the guy is going broke.

[TitoFan]

All you guys can think about is why YOU don't get to see Manny and Floyd fight. BOO HOO!

We're boxing fans. What's wrong with that?

You're getting too emotional in your defense of Floyd and bashing of Arum. I'm not bashing Floyd nor am I a Floyd hater. I just think there's too many shenanigans in boxing that prevent the best fights from happening. And when the fighters themselves begin getting into the politics of the sport, it just makes things worse. No one's saying Arum should win a Nobel Peace prize anytime soon. Him and Don King are cut out of the same mold. But they've also done a lot of good for boxing, like them or not. And again... it's up to Pac to stand up for Pac's best interests. Floyd's hate for Arum shouldn't be a part of the equation. You're wrongly belittling fan interest in all this. If we don't demand the best fights take place..... then what's the point in having these fights at all? Who pays all the big bucks the fighters make for their fights? That's right... the FANS.

My bad... You're right. The fighters...those guys that are literally killing themselves for our amusement--shouldn't get involved with the details or politics of the sport. They should just shut up and fight! They're clearly ruining the sport for all us money spending fans.

Whats the point in risking your life if you're giving 73% of your purse away to a fat fucks who have a stranglehold on the sport and don't care how they use or abuse you?

I don't see how you can say you're fan of boxing if knowing that guys are making less than 27% of their purses seems okay to you.

And yes, it makes me emotional to see idiots like you complain about being deprived of fights when you're just siting on your asses complaining about how these guys aren't dying for you the way you want them to.

That's about 3 "idiots" and 2 "morons". I can see you're quite emotional about the subject. First... the fighters who are, (ahem)... "killing themselves for our amusement". A word of advice: Don't watch so many old Roman movies. These are not Christians being thrown to the lions in the Roman Colosseum. These are athletes who chose..... CHOSE.... to pursue what is inherently a dangerous career/ sport. No guns pointed at heads..... no threats if you don't go out there and put on some boxing gloves. No. Free will.

Ok now about the 27% purses. Well.... I don't know about you.... but 27% of $10 million is still a hell of a lot of money. Is it a fair share? Of course the hell not. But what am I going to solve by boycotting a fight because fighter "X" is not getting his fair share? Is that what we should be doing? I don't know. I'm not the emotional one here.

Oh... and about the part about me wanting the fighters to die the way I want them to. I mean.... I don't want to insult you or nothing, but....... Aren't you being a little bit of a drama queen? Seriously.

Anyway, and on a serious note..... weren't you ignoring my posts before? What the fuck made you go back on that? Miss me?

I don't think he is being a drama queen. It's a fact that boxers take a chance every time they get in the ring. It's a fact that repeated blows to the head do damage the brain which can shorten a fighters life.

Yes. It's a fact that boxers take a chance every time they get in the ring. They take the same chance whether they make $10 million, or $500. Whether they get 27% of the purse or 99%. How much (or little) money they make doesn't make the risks any different. To attach money to the risks is being hypocritical, and that was my main point.

Boxing fans in general tend to be hypocritical. We all enjoy a good slugfest between a Castillo, a Gatti, a Magomed. But we all wring our hands about the dangers of boxing. It's ok to want the sport to be safer. I've argued that on here countless times. But I'll be damned if I'll agree to attach a dollar value to that risk. It's moronic.

This all began with the argument that Floyd concentrate on fighting, and let the Arums and the De La Hoyas haggle over who gets what and how much. The counterargument was that how dare I say that when poor Pac is only getting 27% of the purse from Arum, and Floyd is right in not wanting to fight and make Arum richer.

Again..... who gives a shit?? 27% or 200%, Pac will face the same risks in the ring. One thing has FUCK ALL to do with the other.

So the counterargument continued that I must be sadistic for wanting Pac and Floyd to fight anyway, even though Arum is screwing Pac. Really?!?

Regardless. It's clear that the only way to drive home a point with some on here is to have some stainless steel nails and a good hammer.