One punch doesn't change shit!

[Beanflicker]

Maidana has a loss against Khan, a man being rubbished as a Floyd opponent. Garcia has never fought at 147, and although currently a top-class elite fighter, is not P4P rated (you brought up that it's Floyd's obligation as P4P no.1 to face certain guys). Pac is still P4P rated.

None of these guys have Pacquiao's pedigree and none have current form that is far superior to his. Rios KO'd Alvarado, a man that started favourite against Provodnikov, a man that gave Bradley the beating of his life, a man that the majority of the world saw comprehensively beaten by Pac.

Pacquiao is clearly still the most significant opponent below 160 for Floyd.

Thank you for proving my point that boxing fans have no understanding of momentum.

Did Pacquiao get jobbed against Bradley? He sure did.

That's completely irrelevant. Boxing is a "what have you done lately" sport. Fighters come, fighters go. Fighters are on top of the world one day, they lose, and the next day they're halfway down the ladder the next day. It's a tough sport. Pedigree doesn't mean shit. What you were two or three years ago doesn't mean shit. All that matters is your CURRENT standing in the sport.

It doesn't matter that Maidana lost to Khan 3 years ago. It doesn't even matter so much that he lost to Devon Alexander a year or two ago. That's old news. Since then, he's moved up to WW and ran off 4 straight wins, and by beating Broner (regardless of what people think of Broner as a WW), he gain big momentum, heat, whatever you want to call it. It was a career performance.

When you get absolutely buried like Pac did against JMM, to the point where your biggest fans and your country are calling for you to retire, that's a SERIOUS blow to your career. You have to get the ball rolling again. You have to do more than beat a hand picked, undersized patsy coming off of a loss (please don't even try to defend Rios as an opponent).

Danny Garcia not p4p rated? Ring magainze should be ashamed of themselves.

[Fenster]

Maidana has a loss against Khan, a man being rubbished as a Floyd opponent. Garcia has never fought at 147, and although currently a top-class elite fighter, is not P4P rated (you brought up that it's Floyd's obligation as P4P no.1 to face certain guys). Pac is still P4P rated.

None of these guys have Pacquiao's pedigree and none have current form that is far superior to his. Rios KO'd Alvarado, a man that started favourite against Provodnikov, a man that gave Bradley the beating of his life, a man that the majority of the world saw comprehensively beaten by Pac.

Pacquiao is clearly still the most significant opponent below 160 for Floyd.

Thank you for proving my point that boxing fans have no understanding of momentum.

Did Pacquiao get jobbed against Bradley? He sure did.

That's completely irrelevant. Boxing is a "what have you done lately" sport. Fighters come, fighters go. Fighters are on top of the world one day, they lose, and the next day they're halfway down the ladder the next day. It's a tough sport. Pedigree doesn't mean shit. What you were two or three years ago doesn't mean shit. All that matters is your CURRENT standing in the sport.

It doesn't matter that Maidana lost to Khan 3 years ago. It doesn't even matter so much that he lost to Devon Alexander a year or two ago. That's old news. Since then, he's moved up to WW and ran off 4 straight wins, and by beating Broner (regardless of what people think of Broner as a WW), he gain big momentum, heat, whatever you want to call it. It was a career performance.

When you get absolutely buried like Pac did against JMM, to the point where your biggest fans and your country are calling for you to retire, that's a SERIOUS blow to your career. You have to get the ball rolling again. You have to do more than beat a hand picked, undersized patsy coming off of a loss (please don't even try to defend Rios as an opponent).

Danny Garcia not p4p rated? Ring magainze should be ashamed of themselves.

You brought up P4P. If being P4P has any serious relevance, which it obviously doesn't in reality, then Pac is still regarded as one of the best fighters on the planet regardless of weight.

You've already conceded that money is the biggest factor in determining whether or not a fight gets made. Pac is clearly still the biggest boxing star outside of Floyd, as he just knocked up 500,000 PPV's, coming off a KO loss, against a supposedly "poor" opponent.

So basically all you're left with is - even though Pac is by far the biggest name possible for Floyd, he doesn't deserve the fight because he was beaten by Marquez.

So lets look at the current form (last three fights) of the guys who "deserve" a shot through "momentum."

Bradley - lost against Pac (in the majority of the world's eyes), beat Provodnikov (life and death) and Marquez.

Maidana - beat Angel Martinez, Josesito Lopez and Broner.

Garcia - beat Morales (ancient), Judah and Matthysse.

Pac - beat Bradley (in the majority of the world's eyes), lost against Marquez, beat Rios.

Whose current form is far superior to Pacquiao's? Provodnikov's best win is against a Rios victim. Maidana beat Broner, whose best win was against Malignaggi (at welter), who just beat Judah, who Garica fought just two fights ago. Incidentally Khan has wins over Judah, Malignaggi and Maidana but he's not worthy of fighting Floyd because he didn't look dynamite in his last couple of victories.

What have you done for me lately? Pac's current form holds up pretty well. He suffered a loss to an all-time great then came back with a dominating performance. He's still the second biggest star in boxing. He doesn't have to prove a bloody thing. Fact.

[Julius Rain]

Fenster schooling clowns again. Fact!