Roach Laid out the Plan! After DLH we'll take hatton or Floyd!!!

[Beanflicker]

For sure. I was one of the people who thought Pac never had a chance.

It turned out later Roach had some inside info on DLH not being able to pull the trigger anymore. I think the weight cut really killed him, too. Fighters just don't cut down to their prime weights when they are at the end of their careers.It's too much.

[bzkfn]

I may not have said it in this thread but I definately said Pac had no chance in another thread. I was genuinely stunned watching the fight.

[bradlee180]

Found my old $#!tdog post, dated 09-30-2008, 10:39 PM.

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"5′ 6½″, 29 year old Super-Featherweight (130 lbs) at the peak of his powers.
5′ 10½″, 35 year old Light-Middleweight (154 lbs) is past his best and slowed down quite a bit.
Ultimately Manny wins no matter what happens on fight night.

Also, nobody has mentioned De La Hoya was KNOCKED DOWN early in his career by 130 lb Giorgio Campanella and also knocked down by 5'5" 133 lb Narciso Valenzuela.

Oscar was green then in '93 and '94, but some Pacman-sized guys still had him down, and they were nothing like the caliber of the Pacman.

YouTube - OSCAR DE LA HOYA VS NARCISO VALENZUELA

Good post there, Cracky, the one about it being a "lose-lose fight" for De La Hoya.

I still think it's an interesting fight.
I really don't think De La Hoya could be competitive with Cotto nor Margarito anymore.
He can't beat Shane Mosely. There's no mega-fight at 154. He'd get slaughtered at Middleweight.
Hatton's the only other guy. De La Hoya will only take a big name now.


I think Pacquiao's going to win this fight.
De La Hoya has a puncher's chance, but one good solid left from Oscar is all it would take to KO Pacquiao.

De La Hoya hasn't been at 147 lbs in over 7 years. He'll be drained from training camp, dehydration, and age. His reflexes are gone. He's never had a good right hand. He's fighting a south-paw.
8 oz gloves as Manny wanted. Helluva a size differential, but Manny's in his prime fighting a much bigger but also a slower and older fighter. I think Manny's going to light him up with speed, combinations, and sheer energy.
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[bradlee180]

^ bradguy knows the Truth about Boxing...

[Beanflicker]

De La Hoya hasn't been at 147 lbs in over 7 years. He'll be drained from training camp, dehydration, and age. His reflexes are gone. He's never had a good right hand. He's fighting a south-paw.
8 oz gloves as Manny wanted. Helluva a size differential, but Manny's in his prime fighting a much bigger but also a slower and older fighter. I think Manny's going to light him up with speed, combinations, and sheer energy.
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Right you were.