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    Default Re: Is the weight u transfer from hip rotation the same weight as u transfer from a s

    Quote Originally Posted by cambay411 View Post
    Then turn in your shoulders and hips is where your power comes from.

    A step forward is what will create your angle to land the punch.
    But you can add more power with a step too. I know its defensively risky but its an option for certain situations and opponents.
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    Default Re: Is the weight u transfer from hip rotation the same weight as u transfer from a s

    Quote Originally Posted by OMGWTF View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by cambay411 View Post
    Then turn in your shoulders and hips is where your power comes from.

    A step forward is what will create your angle to land the punch.
    But you can add more power with a step too.



    It seems like you should be able to generate as much power without the step. Im gonna have to go mess around on the heavy bag when I get the chance and get back with you lol.

    If your throwing a lead straight right you will have to take a step to get in on that angle but still the power comes from turning your hips and shoulders into it.

    Say you work the straight right off the jab, you would step in with the jab and make the angle then unload with the snap in your hips and shoulders.





    I think you can get more power off of a step but only because the angle it creates helps you put more snap in your hips and shoulders.
    Last edited by cambay411; 12-27-2013 at 11:06 PM.

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    Default Re: Is the weight u transfer from hip rotation the same weight as u transfer from a s

    Quote Originally Posted by cambay411 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by OMGWTF View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by cambay411 View Post
    Then turn in your shoulders and hips is where your power comes from.

    A step forward is what will create your angle to land the punch.
    But you can add more power with a step too.



    It seems like you should be able to generate as much power without the step. Im gonna have to go mess around on the heavy bag when I get the chance and get back with you lol.

    If your throwing a lead straight right you will have to take a step to get in on that angle but still the power comes from turning your hips and shoulders into it.

    Say you work the straight right off the jab, you would step in with the jab and make the angle then unload with the snap in your hips and shoulders.





    I think you can get more power off of a step but only because the angle it creates helps you put more snap in your hips and shoulders.

    What hurts more? A straight right that hits you while standing still? Or a straight right you walk/step into?

    Same applies for stepping first with any punch that step adds power, so long as the step doesnt ruin the mechanics of the straight right punch.

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    Default Re: Is the weight u transfer from hip rotation the same weight as u transfer from a s

    Quote Originally Posted by OMGWTF View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by cambay411 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by OMGWTF View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by cambay411 View Post
    Then turn in your shoulders and hips is where your power comes from.

    A step forward is what will create your angle to land the punch.
    But you can add more power with a step too.



    It seems like you should be able to generate as much power without the step. Im gonna have to go mess around on the heavy bag when I get the chance and get back with you lol.

    If your throwing a lead straight right you will have to take a step to get in on that angle but still the power comes from turning your hips and shoulders into it.

    Say you work the straight right off the jab, you would step in with the jab and make the angle then unload with the snap in your hips and shoulders.





    I think you can get more power off of a step but only because the angle it creates helps you put more snap in your hips and shoulders.

    What hurts more? A straight right that hits you while standing still? Or a straight right you walk/step into?

    Same applies for stepping first with any punch that step adds power, so long as the step doesnt ruin the mechanics of the straight right punch.


    I see what you mean, your forward momentum adds power to your punch.

    I was thinking you meant stepping simultaniously as you were throwing the punch in which you would be using the momentum and dropping weight of your foot to generate more power.

    But I agree with you. So long as you leave your rear foot on the ground, dont reach out with your right hand and turn your hips and shoulder into your punch you should be good.

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    Default Re: Is the weight u transfer from hip rotation the same weight as u transfer from a s

    After reading over your post 2 would get more power for reasons we have already talked about. And it is a text book way to throw the right. Without the step you cant get in on the angle to land the right.

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    Default Re: Is the weight u transfer from hip rotation the same weight as u transfer from a s

    You should be able to get your weight turned without moving your feet at all. The 'falling step' is useful for closing distance, but you can really screw yourself up if you start doing what I call 'walking' your punches; that is, stepping every time you punch.

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    Default Re: Is the weight u transfer from hip rotation the same weight as u transfer from a s

    Quote Originally Posted by greynotsoold View Post
    You should be able to get your weight turned without moving your feet at all. The 'falling step' is useful for closing distance, but you can really screw yourself up if you start doing what I call 'walking' your punches; that is, stepping every time you punch.
    I can. But for max power its optimal to step and turn rather than just turn, but obviously step while remaining in your stance. (im not walking and squaring up like like an idiot)

    I know this is a bad idea most of the time because you are likely to add power to their punch if you step into your punches (its probably the reason jack dempsey was a sucka for a straight right hand) BUT it is a great way to add power to your punches too. High risk high reward, and if you use it at the right time and judiciously you can make it high reward medium-low risk.

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