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    Default Re: Cotto got schooled by Trout.. how will he deal with Sergio

    Quote Originally Posted by Rantcatrat View Post
    Cotto is no bigger than Floyd. What does it say about Cotto if he faces Martinez before Floyd does?
    That he's an opportunist thinkin he's catchin a vulnerable champ at the right time..

    Martinez used to call cotto out constantly few years ago but got ignored... why is cotto getting brave now?

    I dont know why some fans dont see this. Cotto aint fighting godzilla here..

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    Default Re: Cotto got schooled by Trout.. how will he deal with Sergio

    It's still an extremely dangerous fight for Cotto, even if they have inside information that Martinez is in bad form after the injuries and layoff. Miguel is fighting a bigger man with KO power and faster hands who operates on a comparable skill level, and Cotto is past his best as well.

    For this to be a competitive fight, imo, Cotto will have to be in much better form than he was against Trout, and Martinez will have decayed further than he showed in the Murray fight. Both quite possible, but it would detract from the fight as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by p4pking View Post
    It's still an extremely dangerous fight for Cotto, even if they have inside information that Martinez is in bad form after the injuries and layoff. Miguel is fighting a bigger man with KO power and faster hands who operates on a comparable skill level, and Cotto is past his best as well.

    For this to be a competitive fight, imo, Cotto will have to be in much better form than he was against Trout, and Martinez will have decayed further than he showed in the Murray fight. Both quite possible, but it would detract from the fight as well.
    Exactly, this is a real challenge for Cotto. He's a 5'7" blown up welter fighting for the middleweight championship against a very good champion. Neither man is in his prime either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamita View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Rantcatrat View Post
    Cotto is no bigger than Floyd. What does it say about Cotto if he faces Martinez before Floyd does?
    That he's an opportunist thinkin he's catchin a vulnerable champ at the right time..

    Martinez used to call cotto out constantly few years ago but got ignored... why is cotto getting brave now?

    I dont know why some fans dont see this. Cotto aint fighting godzilla here..

    Come on Finito. All boxers are opportunists. Its part of their world and its more prevalent today then perhaps anytime in history. And I dont recall Sergio calling out Cotto ever and a few years ago he was still a welter. They are both damaged goods and this story has played out countless times. Even Robinson never fought one Murderers Row fighter until Wade and that was after Aaron had retired for close to 2 years. Leonard knew Duran was having weight issues and that's why he arranged the rematch for 6 months after the first.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IamInuit View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamita View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Rantcatrat View Post
    Cotto is no bigger than Floyd. What does it say about Cotto if he faces Martinez before Floyd does?
    That he's an opportunist thinkin he's catchin a vulnerable champ at the right time..

    Martinez used to call cotto out constantly few years ago but got ignored... why is cotto getting brave now?

    I dont know why some fans dont see this. Cotto aint fighting godzilla here..

    Come on Finito. All boxers are opportunists. Its part of their world and its more prevalent today then perhaps anytime in history. And I dont recall Sergio calling out Cotto ever and a few years ago he was still a welter. They are both damaged goods and this story has played out countless times. Even Robinson never fought one Murderers Row fighter until Wade and that was after Aaron had retired for close to 2 years. Leonard knew Duran was having weight issues and that's why he arranged the rematch for 6 months after the first.


    I don't recall that either. But facts are besides the point here.

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    Default Re: Cotto got schooled by Trout.. how will he deal with Sergio

    I don't recall Sergio calling out Cotto either but this is a terrible matchup for Cotto. Miguel likes to impose himself physically, he can't do that against Sergio. Miguel likes to offset rhythms with his ramrod jab, won't happen vs a southpaw. Cotto doesn't avoid punches, he counts on his guard to catch them. The gap between his guard is specifically open to a southpaws left cross just by position of his guard. So Miguel hunches against southpaws making him even more open to the uppercut than normal.

    Miguel will be significantly smaller, significantly slower, have less power and just by style be open to attack. Not a good combo. Miguel has been hurt many times against southpaws for a reason. Bob is getting paid and making sure nobody else does after. This is the end of Miguels career.

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    Gotta agree with Ron, spot on. More I think about this one all I see is a gutty Cotto driving into one way traffic. It's Martinez picking Cotto as a comeback opponent, not the other way around as has been suggested.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Swanson View Post
    I don't recall Sergio calling out Cotto either but this is a terrible matchup for Cotto. Miguel likes to impose himself physically, he can't do that against Sergio. Miguel likes to offset rhythms with his ramrod jab, won't happen vs a southpaw. Cotto doesn't avoid punches, he counts on his guard to catch them. The gap between his guard is specifically open to a southpaws left cross just by position of his guard. So Miguel hunches against southpaws making him even more open to the uppercut than normal.

    Miguel will be significantly smaller, significantly slower, have less power and just by style be open to attack. Not a good combo. Miguel has been hurt many times against southpaws for a reason. Bob is getting paid and making sure nobody else does after. This is the end of Miguels career.
    I've always respected Cotto for his courage, and for the way he carries himself, but I've never enjoyed watching him fight. He just gets hit way too much.

    Even if Miguel could somehow win this fight, I don't see any way he doesn't sustain a hellacious beating in the process, unless Martinez somehow injures himself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by IamInuit View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamita View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Rantcatrat View Post
    Cotto is no bigger than Floyd. What does it say about Cotto if he faces Martinez before Floyd does?
    That he's an opportunist thinkin he's catchin a vulnerable champ at the right time..

    Martinez used to call cotto out constantly few years ago but got ignored... why is cotto getting brave now?

    I dont know why some fans dont see this. Cotto aint fighting godzilla here..

    Come on Finito. All boxers are opportunists. Its part of their world and its more prevalent today then perhaps anytime in history. And I dont recall Sergio calling out Cotto ever and a few years ago he was still a welter. They are both damaged goods and this story has played out countless times. Even Robinson never fought one Murderers Row fighter until Wade and that was after Aaron had retired for close to 2 years. Leonard knew Duran was having weight issues and that's why he arranged the rematch for 6 months after the first.


    I don't recall that either. But facts are besides the point here.
    LOL!

    Aren't they always?

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    Default Re: Cotto got schooled by Trout.. how will he deal with Sergio

    Quote Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamita View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Rantcatrat View Post
    Cotto is no bigger than Floyd. What does it say about Cotto if he faces Martinez before Floyd does?
    That he's an opportunist thinkin he's catchin a vulnerable champ at the right time..

    Martinez used to call cotto out constantly few years ago but got ignored... why is cotto getting brave now?

    I dont know why some fans dont see this. Cotto aint fighting godzilla here..
    yet Canelo trying to get a fight against Cotto while Miguel is reaching the end of his career is a case of a young fighter looking for a tough fight right?! transparent as fuck dude

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