Does anyone think George Zimmerman is guilty of murder?

[imp]

People shouldn't fret so much for Zimmerman. Both he and his ex-wife stand to become millionaires after getting books published, movies made, and apparently selling paintings.

I don't know if Zimmerman's side of the story is gonna be a big seller. People are wrapped up in this image of a racist white man stalking and gunning down a young black child in cold blood. That's what people want to believe. The truth of what happened isn't as sexy.

So true.

Wonder what the verdict would have been if roles were reversed?.

[Beanflicker]

So true.

Wonder what the verdict would have been if roles were reversed?.

Well we kinda did have a black George Zimmerman, named Roderick Scott.

40 year old Roderick Scott, a black man, confronted a 17 year old white kid who was breaking into cars on his neighbourhood. Roderick pulled out a gun and ordered the kid to freeze until the cops came. The kid apparently started coming towards Scott, so he opened fire, killing the kid.

Charges were completely dropped.

I doubt many people (if any) here have heard about this case. It doesn't make for such a compelling story when it's the other way around.

[El Kabong]

So true.

Wonder what the verdict would have been if roles were reversed?.

Well we kinda did have a black George Zimmerman, named Roderick Scott.

40 year old Roderick Scott, a black man, confronted a 17 year old white kid who was breaking into cars on his neighbourhood. Roderick pulled out a gun and ordered the kid to freeze until the cops came. The kid apparently started coming towards Scott, so he opened fire, killing the kid.

Charges were completely dropped.

I doubt many people (if any) here have heard about this case. It doesn't make for such a compelling story when it's the other way around.

Doesn't fit the media agenda

[Beanflicker]

For sure.

I was reading about an anti-Zimmerman painting that got taken off of Ebay a week or so ago.

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/wp-conten...12/hoodies.jpg

The painting itself sums up the ignorance perpetrated by the media: the big, bad, card-carrying Klan member who was just YEARNING to off a black person for years stalks and guns down a tiny black child.

You can count on one hand the national media outlets that saw it fit to include little facts like...

-Zimmerman is half Latino, and has always identified himself as "latino" on any official form that asks for race.

-Zimmerman has black people in his family.

-Zimmerman took a black girl to his prom.

-Zimmerman tutored/mentored young black youth.

-Zimmerman helped organize/participate a movement to have a white man who pummeled a homeless black man charged with a hate crime.

But hey, that doesn't get people watching. Race wars get people watching.

[VictorCharlie]

@Andre they found all the guns in Australia. I'd like to point out some stupidity though. There is no glock that costs 10k and I've never heard of a modern rifle worth 50k.

Australian police find 328 guns, 4.2 tons of ammo at farm - World News

[El Kabong]

@Andre they found all the guns in Australia. I'd like to point out some stupidity though. There is no glock that costs 10k and I've never heard of a modern rifle worth 50k.

Australian police find 328 guns, 4.2 tons of ammo at farm - World News

Maybe one of the Aussies got hold of one of Saddam's gold plated AK's?

[Beanz]

So true.

Wonder what the verdict would have been if roles were reversed?.

Well we kinda did have a black George Zimmerman, named Roderick Scott.

40 year old Roderick Scott, a black man, confronted a 17 year old white kid who was breaking into cars on his neighbourhood. Roderick pulled out a gun and ordered the kid to freeze until the cops came. The kid apparently started coming towards Scott, so he opened fire, killing the kid.

Charges were completely dropped.

I doubt many people (if any) here have heard about this case. It doesn't make for such a compelling story when it's the other way around.

That would have been met with the same disbelief here in Europe and in the UK people would expect to see him charged with murder. Its not about race. The idea that only white people are capable of racism is also a ridiculous one, some latinos and asian bigots are often much more vociferously anti black than white people, so that is a red herring.

[El Kabong]

The idea that only white people are capable of racism is also a ridiculous one

Tell that to Eric Holder, Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, and the entire MSNBC network

[Beanz]

What part of "its not about race" do you not understand?

[VictorCharlie]

GB are you saying the story was covered in the UK totally devoid of racial overtones? Personally I'm shocked it was even considered news in the UK. I can't imagine a UK murder case being reported on in the US barring a celebrity involvement.

[Beanz]

GB are you saying the story was covered in the UK totally devoid of racial overtones? Personally I'm shocked it was even considered news in the UK. I can't imagine a UK murder case being reported on in the US barring a celebrity involvement.

The media is different here but I was referring to the reaction of British people rather than how it was presented by the media. Our respective countries are much more different than many people (particularly here on this forum) would have you believe. When you live in a country where firearms are not seen as necessary or desirable then a story in which one civilian shoots another dead outside of his home is met with disbelief.

[Beanflicker]

What part of "its not about race" do you not understand?

If you want to live in your bubble that's fine, but this was a huge racial issue in North America.

[Beanflicker]

Its not about race. The idea that only white people are capable of racism is also a ridiculous one, some latinos and asian bigots are often much more vociferously anti black than white people, so that is a red herring.

I'm not sure what kind of coverage they had of the Zimmerman incident in England, but over here it was very much a racial thing.

A red herring? I simply mentioned it because that's the way it was portrayed by the media: white man guns down black child. It's not as interesting if it's a minority killing another minority.

I gave you numerous other facts involving Zimmerman that point to him NOT being racist against blacks. Why don't you try to argue one of those points?

Why don't you explain to me why a supposed homicidal racist who was just itching to kill a black guy would take a black girl as his date to the prom?

Why don't you explain to me why this supposed racist was so outraged when he learned that a white man got away scot-free with beating the shit out of a black man, that he organized petitions and movements to have the white guy charged for a hate crime?

Why don't you explain to me why a homicidal racist would mentor black children in his spare time?