London will be overrun by 29 million Romanians and Bulgarians

[brocktonblockbust]

All the flights were not sold out. All the trains were not full. All the ferries were not crammed full. The planned mass invasion never happened. The UK is part of the EU, it is not an isolated experiment. Mealymouthed protectionism from someone who would see the UK become a republic and remove a monarchy that earns far more than it costs.

Oh please Beanz. The invasion is set for April 2014. Flights, trains and ferries WILL be crammed and you will be sorry.

[Beanz]

All the flights were not sold out. All the trains were not full. All the ferries were not crammed full. The planned mass invasion never happened. The UK is part of the EU, it is not an isolated experiment. Mealymouthed protectionism from someone who would see the UK become a republic and remove a monarchy that earns far more than it costs.

Oh please Beanz. The invasion is set for April 2014. Flights, trains and ferries WILL be crammed and you will be sorry.

Stop moving the goalposts. Why will I be sorry ? I am Gypsy Chav Scum and proud. Bring it on.

[brocktonblockbust]

All the flights were not sold out. All the trains were not full. All the ferries were not crammed full. The planned mass invasion never happened. The UK is part of the EU, it is not an isolated experiment. Mealymouthed protectionism from someone who would see the UK become a republic and remove a monarchy that earns far more than it costs.

Oh please Beanz. The invasion is set for April 2014. Flights, trains and ferries WILL be crammed and you will be sorry.

Stop moving the goalposts. Why will I be sorry ? I am Gypsy Chav Scum and proud. Bring it on.

@Greenbeanz dude this is the part you are not understanding. YOU are NOT scum. YOU are not implicated in crimes. Don't defend anyone who IS, even if they come from the same place. I am Italian and I can say that Italians are the biggest scumbags on earth. You go to Rome you get robbed--its THAT FUCKING SIMPLE. Does that mke me a racist Beanz? Im Italian and Italian are scum---everybody knows it. SCUM Italians robbing and pick pocketing in Italy. Raping. Cheating. Mafia. Sexual harrassers. etc. I have NO problem saying this, why do you have a problem when we say a lot of these gypsies and poor easterners are vagabond scum WHEN THEY ACTUALLY INDEED ARE JUST THAT!!!

[Dia bando]

There is no more social housing, the thing is vast emigrations is bad for ALL OF US, no housing and
no jobs, this leads to poverty and slums and ghettos simple not rocket science.

[Beanz]

All the flights were not sold out. All the trains were not full. All the ferries were not crammed full. The planned mass invasion never happened. The UK is part of the EU, it is not an isolated experiment. Mealymouthed protectionism from someone who would see the UK become a republic and remove a monarchy that earns far more than it costs.

Oh please Beanz. The invasion is set for April 2014. Flights, trains and ferries WILL be crammed and you will be sorry.

Stop moving the goalposts. Why will I be sorry ? I am Gypsy Chav Scum and proud. Bring it on.

@Greenbeanz dude this is the part you are not understanding. YOU are NOT scum. YOU are not implicated in crimes. Don't defend anyone who IS, even if they come from the same place. I am Italian and I can say that Italians are the biggest scumbags on earth. You go to Rome you get robbed--its THAT FUCKING SIMPLE. Does that mke me a racist Beanz? Im Italian and Italian are scum---everybody knows it. SCUM Italians robbing and pick pocketing in Italy. Raping. Cheating. Mafia. Sexual harrassers. etc. I have NO problem saying this, why do you have a problem when we say a lot of these gypsies and poor easterners are vagabond scum WHEN THEY ACTUALLY INDEED ARE JUST THAT!!!

I used to live in Milan amongst Italians who most certainly were not scum. You do your countrymen a disservice. I come from what Americans would call a social housing project full of crime and desolation but I don't think everyone from that Estate is scum. Before that it was inhabited by farmers and Gypsies. It really is not that simple. I have marched and fought against far right groups in Italy and here but I am not about to use sweeping generalisations against the population of either country.

[Dia bando]

All the flights were not sold out. All the trains were not full. All the ferries were not crammed full. The planned mass invasion never happened. The UK is part of the EU, it is not an isolated experiment. Mealymouthed protectionism from someone who would see the UK become a republic and remove a monarchy that earns far more than it costs.

Oh please Beanz. The invasion is set for April 2014. Flights, trains and ferries WILL be crammed and you will be sorry.

Stop moving the goalposts. Why will I be sorry ? I am Gypsy Chav Scum and proud. Bring it on.

@Greenbeanz dude this is the part you are not understanding. YOU are NOT scum. YOU are not implicated in crimes. Don't defend anyone who IS, even if they come from the same place. I am Italian and I can say that Italians are the biggest scumbags on earth. You go to Rome you get robbed--its THAT FUCKING SIMPLE. Does that mke me a racist Beanz? Im Italian and Italian are scum---everybody knows it. SCUM Italians robbing and pick pocketing in Italy. Raping. Cheating. Mafia. Sexual harrassers. etc. I have NO problem saying this, why do you have a problem when we say a lot of these gypsies and poor easterners are vagabond scum WHEN THEY ACTUALLY INDEED ARE JUST THAT!!!

I used to live in Milan amongst Italians who most certainly were not scum. You do your countrymen a disservice. I come from what Americans would call a social housing project full of crime and desolation but I don't think everyone from that Estate is scum. Before that it was inhabited by farmers and Gypsies. It really is not that simple. I have marched and fought against far right groups in Italy and here but I am not about to use sweeping generalisations against the population of either country.

Beanz I think the point's are a open border, is no good for us at all I have many friends from,
Council estates, remember we can not HELP everybody, we are all struggling at this moment
in time energy bills food jobs housing.
We can not have a open door, to house the poor of Europe, lets get our own house in order
first, If I wished to emigrate to the US or OZ, the first thing they ask is what can you do for us
what skills do you have,!!!
Labour is something we are not short of, time moves on we have a large population do we need
to add to it with the poverty struck of Europe.

[brocktonblockbust]

if country A has a 40% tuberculosis rate, and your country B has 0%, and you are the president --- shouldnt you have some concernfor your country and block or atleast screen carefully those country A people who want to come over? or is that a sweeping generalization?

[ryanman]

I know facts don't seem a very important part of this thread but here is an interesting article regarding a study -

BBC News - Recent immigrants to UK 'make net contribution'

Immigration has had a net GROWTH effect on our economy since 2000. GROWTH.
And unless you are completely thick you understand that means that immigration makes the country WEALTHIER than it would otherwise be. I'm sure you all understand that.
So the whole 'country is poor, don't need more people' argument is not valid.
Not that I expect anyone to change their views. After all they are based on soundbites, headlines and gut instincts rather than evidence and fact.
But every time you make that argument you are just being willfully ignorant.

[Beanz]

I have, but as I have said a matter of days ago, it is January and freezing cold here. Who would be on an uncertain job hunt in the middle of the English winter. It is more realistic to evaluated numbers at the end of a genuine period of time like a year. They will be significant and mock me if I am wrong, but make me King if I am right.

It's now a year and four days and we literally can't move for Romanians and Bulgarians

Greenbeanz thinks he's won some kind of argument. What a clown. It's the middle of bloody January.

All the flights were not sold out. All the trains were not full. All the ferries were not crammed full. The planned mass invasion never happened.

Oh please Beanz. The invasion is set for April 2014. Flights, trains and ferries WILL be crammed and you will be sorry.

April 1 2014?

[Gandalf]

London isn't overrun by 29 million Romanians and Bulgarians, but council housing has been flogged to developers for overseas markets and it's a fact that immigration has not been controlled whatsoever. Brock got carried away in his estimations considering that the number is something akin to the entire populations of those countries, but still the immigration has been significant and unofficially it must be something horrendous.

You ruin the harmony of a country when all the young leave as they cannot make it at home and then in turn you allow in lots of immigrants who in turn don't like the host country so much except as a place to pool some cash. Then you have people coming in working for less, some even turning radical, and then you find you don't have a sane country anymore. Europe is a mess and it is because countries lost the ability to control borders and maintain a sense of community.

Now will lessons be learned or will Europe become militarised and bizarre like the US? I think we know the answer. The economy and the useful excuse of terrorism now ushers in totalitarianism.

[brocktonblockbust]

London isn't overrun by 29 million Romanians and Bulgarians, but council housing has been flogged to developers for overseas markets and it's a fact that immigration has not been controlled whatsoever. Brock got carried away in his estimations considering that the number is something akin to the entire populations of those countries, but still the immigration has been significant and unofficially it must be something horrendous.

You ruin the harmony of a country when all the young leave as they cannot make it at home and then in turn you allow in lots of immigrants who in turn don't like the host country so much except as a place to pool some cash. Then you have people coming in working for less, some even turning radical, and then you find you don't have a sane country anymore. Europe is a mess and it is because countries lost the ability to control borders and maintain a sense of community.

Now will lessons be learned or will Europe become militarised and bizarre like the US? I think we know the answer. The economy and the useful excuse of terrorism now ushers in totalitarianism.

Great post Miles. Only pedants and nitpickers will focus on the literal "29 million" verbiage. Fact is UK, EU US are being ruined because of what you correctly noted. Further, US citizens' opportunities have been drastically reduced for example, I WAS making $15 an hour in 1994 as a customer service rep, and 21 years later all those kinds of office/customer service/clerical jobs are now paying $12-14 an hour! You think an american wants to work 21 years and earn the same or less per hour? NO. SO THEY LEAVE. And find jobs where their Masters and Bachelor degrees are in high demand. and Berta Valenzuela or Maria Hernandez come in from Colombia or Peru and they get those clerical/office jobs at a discounted $11 an hour AND THEY THINK THEY HIT THE JACKPOT! At $330 USD PER WEEK thry can feed their whole village in El Salvador. their English sucks and if you call a customerr service number for your bank or Verizon account or electric bill etc you can hardly understand them/can't understand their Spanglish at all..if u go into some stores they have an attitude problem if you don't speak Spanish to them. This has been happening by the hundreds of thousands since 1990. Ruined the country. EUROPE & UK you are next.

P.s. when my grampa came over from Italy in 1921, he was 10 yrs old and he learned English in 2 years, got a high school diploma, and spoke with ZERO ACCENT and blended and fit well into American society. These Hispanic people (these, bwahaha) usually demand bilingual driving tests and Spanish language aptitude tests and Spanish voting booths etc. And signs must be posted in Spanish everywhere in California, Florida, Nj/NYetc. Italian immigrants never asked for Italian language signs, tests, forms, voting procedures etc. These fucking people BWAHAHA do not care about learning English. They have ruined society in some ways. Either LEARN ENGLISH OR GO THE FUCK HOME. I speak Turkish because I'm working in Turkey. I spoke Spanish whilst in Colombia, Venezuela, Mexico, etc. I spoke Malay whilst living in Malaysia. Kick THESE (bwaaaahaha) PEOPLE'S AUDACIOUS ASSES OUT if they refuse to learn English. Dios mio saccalos en seguida y mandalos por atras fucking hijos de puta sin verguenzas! Malditos bendejos. Los mas sin verguenzas que hay.