Did you guys hear that David Haye is back?

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I agree he probably wasn't scared of fighting Fury as no one becomes a boxer if they are scared of a fight. Although its blatantly obvious he was scared of losing to Fury. Scared of losing future options, scared of losing that high esteem he has conned out of a certain naive section of fans.

I think Haye was a lot more confident. I watched all the pre-fight build up segments and interviews and even though Fury was trolling and acting the part, every once and awhile he'd use language like "win or lose", "if I lose", ect. I think he even conceeded that Haye could knock him out if he caught him early or caught him good.In contrast, Haye's line never changed and he never he conceeded the possibility of defeat.

Maybe Haye is just a better con-man or has a better poker face, who knows. But I know Fury wasn't 100% confident going into that fight.

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So much for the retirement due to a " serious " shoulder injury.

If he comes back and doesn't attempt to arrange a fight with Fury, alot of our suspicions are true. He was scared shitless of Fury and wanted out.

Gotta say I agree with most of that... I used to be a big Haye fan with his non performance against Wlad starting to turn me off him as a fighter.

I mean you get a shot against the top man so go in and fucking fight him... no one would have thought any less of him if he got sparked out in the process.

Seriously pissed me off that night did Haye.

Doubt he was scared to fight Fury because he simply would have won by KO as soon as he landed a big right hand.

To be honest I really dont see where he goes from here unless he can somehow leapfrog everyone and get another fight with Wlad?

Or go the other route Wbc... but has he still got the bargaining power to leapfrog that route..?

Thing is that Haye/Booth are proper hustlers and very very very good at it so anythings possible when it comes to David

I agree he probably wasn't scared of fighting Fury as no one becomes a boxer if they are scared of a fight. Although its blatantly obvious he was scared of losing to Fury. Scared of losing future options, scared of losing that high esteem he has conned out of a certain naive section of fans.

If Fury fought Barrett, Harrison, and Ruiz one after the other a month apart he would get the shit ripped out of him in this forum for fighting such bums. Haye does it and not only are those fights acceptable, they are proof he is an amazing heavy. Then you have Valuev, Chisora and Wlad. Valuev most think he lost to, he put no effort in against Wlad and Chisora was beaten by Fury years ago but Haye was being lined up to fight Vitali!

If he does come back then its irrefutable that he didn't want to lose. He was getting a beating in sparring by the likes of Richard Towers Fury had a good camp and was on the verge of his break through fight. Haye would not have landed a thing and would have had to resort at leaping in. Fury would have been the first man to stop him at heavy and Haye didnt want Fury to have that distinction, especially over a Klitschko as it would suddenly legitimise Fury as britains best heavy, over Haye!

You managed a half decent paragraph before you reverted back to your usual bullshit posting.

Fury has done FUCK ALL in the heavyweights except being put down by a Cruiserweight who cant punch and beating a hugely overweight Chisora over 12 rounds when Haye smashed a fit Chisora in half the time lol.

And this is all the ammo you have while you live happily inside Furys rectum.

And I dont know anyone who thinks he didnt beat Valuev hands down.

You are a dickhead Ross.

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You managed a half decent paragraph before you reverted back to your usual bullshit posting.

Fury has done FUCK ALL in the heavyweights except being put down by a Cruiserweight who cant punch and beating a hugely overweight Chisora over 12 rounds when Haye smashed a fit Chisora in half the time lol.

And this is all the ammo you have while you live happily inside Furys rectum.

And I dont know anyone who thinks he didnt beat Valuev hands down.

You are a dickhead Ross.

He's confusing Fact with Fiction.


FYI, a FACT is only a FACT on this forum when confirmed by @Fenster

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You managed a half decent paragraph before you reverted back to your usual bullshit posting.

Fury has done FUCK ALL in the heavyweights except being put down by a Cruiserweight who cant punch and beating a hugely overweight Chisora over 12 rounds when Haye smashed a fit Chisora in half the time lol.

And this is all the ammo you have while you live happily inside Furys rectum.

And I dont know anyone who thinks he didnt beat Valuev hands down.

You are a dickhead Ross.

He's confusing Fact with Fiction.


FYI, a FACT is only a FACT on this forum when confirmed by @Fenster

Fenster is fact most of the time

[Dark Lord Al]

Haye has proved to be a dick , he did mess fury about , however that doesn't make fury better because he almost fought a former belt holder twice.
As I have said both Haye and fury need to put up and shut up , actually do something in the ring for us to talk about.

[El Kabong]

Haye is just looking for the easiest route to make money. He has the talent to beat a lot of heavyweights but he's picking and choosing so carefully that everyone thinks he's a total pussy and hell maybe that IS the case.


He just needs to go ahead schedule a fight, follow through and maybe people outside of England will take him a little more seriously

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Haye has proved to be a dick , he did mess fury about , however that doesn't make fury better because he almost fought a former belt holder twice.
As I have said both Haye and fury need to put up and shut up , actually do something in the ring for us to talk about.

Haye is going to do what he wants matter what anyone else thinks.
Fury is the one who should shut up and start fighting. He is not learning much about fighting in the ring if he is not fighting in the ring. If Fury thinks his size is going to carry him to a legit/international belt he's living in a dreamland .
Fury and his team are doing all the this jockeying, looking for the perfect opponent to place Tyson in the best spot for a title shot, when he should be learning his craft by fighting every three or four months.
Everyone knows there is room for improvement in Fury's boxing and everyone (except Fury and his team) knows he is not going to learn it on Twitter or Facebook.
Just shut up and start fighting, things will come your way.

[Ron Swanson]

Haye will save heavyweight boxing!



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[Fenster]

If Haye is just looking for the easiest money option, fuck knows what he was thinking when throwing a guaranteed £5million away against Fury. There's no guarantee he'll make more than that for a shot at that shitty WBC belt. In fact, it's almost certain he wont.

[boyla]

Haye is nothing but a annoyance to boxing.

Best method to deal with attention whores are to ignore them.

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Haye has proved to be a dick , he did mess fury about , however that doesn't make fury better because he almost fought a former belt holder twice.
As I have said both Haye and fury need to put up and shut up , actually do something in the ring for us to talk about.

Haye is going to do what he wants matter what anyone else thinks.
Fury is the one who should shut up and start fighting. He is not learning much about fighting in the ring if he is not fighting in the ring. If Fury thinks his size is going to carry him to a legit/international belt he's living in a dreamland .
Fury and his team are doing all the this jockeying, looking for the perfect opponent to place Tyson in the best spot for a title shot, when he should be learning his craft by fighting every three or four months.
Everyone knows there is room for improvement in Fury's boxing and everyone (except Fury and his team) knows he is not going to learn it on Twitter or Facebook.
Just shut up and start fighting, things will come your way.

Its Hayes fault Fury hasnt fought for so long!

He was scheduled to face Pulev in the summer but Hayes team offered him a fight which he jumped at! Like he has said, if he had fought Pulev in the eliminator he would still be in no better position now as look at where Pulev is now, in no mans land still. Fury jumped at the chance to beat a big name ex belt holder and be the first man to stop him. Its not Furys fault he hasnt fought. Up till that point he was the busiest top ten heavy in the world actually fighting and beating respectable names.

Who is Pulev fighting next? Who was his last fight? Who is Wilder fighting next? Who was his last fight? Same goes for Chisora.

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Its Hayes fault Fury hasnt fought for so long!

He was scheduled to face Pulev in the summer but Hayes team offered him a fight which he jumped at! Like he has said, if he had fought Pulev in the eliminator he would still be in no better position now as look at where Pulev is now, in no mans land still. Fury jumped at the chance to beat a big name ex belt holder and be the first man to stop him. Its not Furys fault he hasnt fought. Up till that point he was the busiest top ten heavy in the world actually fighting and beating respectable names.

Who is Pulev fighting next? Who was his last fight? Who is Wilder fighting next? Who was his last fight? Same goes for Chisora.

Fury didn't have to wait on a dance partner, he's a big boy he could have just chosen to move on, but he's hung up on Haye obviously.

Pulev doesn't have anything scheduled, he last fought Joey Abell.

Wilder also has nothing scheduled and his last fight was Nicolai Firtha

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Its Hayes fault Fury hasnt fought for so long!

He was scheduled to face Pulev in the summer but Hayes team offered him a fight which he jumped at! Like he has said, if he had fought Pulev in the eliminator he would still be in no better position now as look at where Pulev is now, in no mans land still. Fury jumped at the chance to beat a big name ex belt holder and be the first man to stop him. Its not Furys fault he hasnt fought. Up till that point he was the busiest top ten heavy in the world actually fighting and beating respectable names.

Who is Pulev fighting next? Who was his last fight? Who is Wilder fighting next? Who was his last fight? Same goes for Chisora.

Fury didn't have to wait on a dance partner, he's a big boy he could have just chosen to move on, but he's hung up on Haye obviously.

Pulev doesn't have anything scheduled, he last fought Joey Abell.

Wilder also has nothing scheduled and his last fight was Nicolai Firtha

Exactly, people who are thought more of than Fury are fighting shite!

Pulev did have a fight lined up, im sure of it! For Feb or March and it was another nobody.

How has Fury hung around doing nothing? Hes been kept hanging on until December, that was only a few weeks ago. They apparently do have something lined up now. It wont be a big name, I doubt that very much but if Wilder can fight Firtha after 30 fights and Pulev fight a complete nobody journeyman and still be regarded higher then im sure Fury wont get any shit for fighting a warm up/stay busy fight

Fury did everything in his power to create the biggest heavyweight fight of the year. Haye did everything in his power to get out of it but now its Furys fault?

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Fury was hangin on for a big payday. Is there another fighter where he will make a few million other then maybe Wlad? Can't blame him for waitin if he had a commitment from Haye.

Haye will likely get title shots before Fury without beating anyone decent because he can bring some decent cash. Not many other heavyweights can bring cash.

[El Kabong]

Exactly, people who are thought more of than Fury are fighting shite!

Pulev did have a fight lined up, im sure of it! For Feb or March and it was another nobody.

How has Fury hung around doing nothing? Hes been kept hanging on until December, that was only a few weeks ago. They apparently do have something lined up now. It wont be a big name, I doubt that very much but if Wilder can fight Firtha after 30 fights and Pulev fight a complete nobody journeyman and still be regarded higher then im sure Fury wont get any shit for fighting a warm up/stay busy fight

Fury did everything in his power to create the biggest heavyweight fight of the year. Haye did everything in his power to get out of it but now its Furys fault?

Yes and Fury not fighting probably didn't help himself.

Haye is a part time fighter and a NOTORIOUS liar. I've never said any different. If Fury didn't know what Haye was going to pull that's 100% on Fury because he did that shit with Wlad, with Vitali plenty of times. It took Wlad like 4 years to finally fight Haye because that's the way Haye does business.

Pulev has a top notch amateur career behind him. He also beat Tony Thompson (another guy Fury could have fought while he was waiting on Haye). And that is why he's well respected. He also stopped Ustinov who is a huge mofo.

Wilder is regarded highly because of how he has won his fights not who he has beaten. For example, if Fury had blasted out Steve Cunningham or Chisora really early....he might have that little bit of danger about him, but his fights are pedestrian for the most part.