Juan Manuel Marquez seems not really interested in the Pacquiao 5th fight.

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That's all very true, but I doubt any of that would deter him if the money was right. Besides, if he isn't confident that he could KO Manny again, he shouldn't be fighting anyone. I don't want to see a fifth fight, but where else does he go?
Anyone know what he made for the 4th fight, or against Bradley in comparison? I'd imagine he could fight any 3 guys and not make as much as he would given a closer split with Pacman.

$6 million against both. Bear in mind Pac's money was $25m/Bradley's $4m. So obviously a Pac fight is worth shitloads more than anyone else.

Wow, thanks. Guess that's half your answer right there. He's clearly never going to get anywhere near a 50/50 split with Manny(nor should he), but he'd certainly demand a lot more than he got for any of the first 4 after scoring that KO. I'd bet the loss to Bradley hurt his earning power as far as other prospective fights as well.

[Addicted to_boxing]

That's all very true, but I doubt any of that would deter him if the money was right. Besides, if he isn't confident that he could KO Manny again, he shouldn't be fighting anyone. I don't want to see a fifth fight, but where else does he go?
Anyone know what he made for the 4th fight, or against Bradley in comparison? I'd imagine he could fight any 3 guys and not make as much as he would given a closer split with Pacman.

$6 million against both. Bear in mind Pac's money was $25m/Bradley's $4m. So obviously a Pac fight is worth shitloads more than anyone else.

Wow, thanks. Guess that's half your answer right there. He's clearly never going to get anywhere near a 50/50 split with Manny(nor should he), but he'd certainly demand a lot more than he got for any of the first 4 after scoring that KO. I'd bet the loss to Bradley hurt his earning power as far as other prospective fights as well.

How does a win over Rios push Pac over JMM based on a common opponent loss to Bradley? Its 50/50 or no go. The mindset that all you have that Pac deserves the bigger purse is why no Mayweather fight has evolved.

[Fenster]

That's all very true, but I doubt any of that would deter him if the money was right. Besides, if he isn't confident that he could KO Manny again, he shouldn't be fighting anyone. I don't want to see a fifth fight, but where else does he go?
Anyone know what he made for the 4th fight, or against Bradley in comparison? I'd imagine he could fight any 3 guys and not make as much as he would given a closer split with Pacman.

$6 million against both. Bear in mind Pac's money was $25m/Bradley's $4m. So obviously a Pac fight is worth shitloads more than anyone else.

Wow, thanks. Guess that's half your answer right there. He's clearly never going to get anywhere near a 50/50 split with Manny(nor should he), but he'd certainly demand a lot more than he got for any of the first 4 after scoring that KO. I'd bet the loss to Bradley hurt his earning power as far as other prospective fights as well.

How does a win over Rios push Pac over JMM based on a common opponent loss to Bradley? Its 50/50 or no go. The mindset that all you have that Pac deserves the bigger purse is why no Mayweather fight has evolved.

Pac is worth much more than Marquez regardless of his KO loss. Marquez-Bradley did 300,000 PPV. Pac-Rios did 500,000. Pac-Bradley did 750,000.

Pac's guarantee against Rios was $18m. Marquez made $6m against Bradley. Pac got $26m+ against Bradley.

When it comes to money, it doesn't matter who the better fighter is, just who's the better seller.

[Addicted to_boxing]

That's all very true, but I doubt any of that would deter him if the money was right. Besides, if he isn't confident that he could KO Manny again, he shouldn't be fighting anyone. I don't want to see a fifth fight, but where else does he go?
Anyone know what he made for the 4th fight, or against Bradley in comparison? I'd imagine he could fight any 3 guys and not make as much as he would given a closer split with Pacman.

$6 million against both. Bear in mind Pac's money was $25m/Bradley's $4m. So obviously a Pac fight is worth shitloads more than anyone else.

Wow, thanks. Guess that's half your answer right there. He's clearly never going to get anywhere near a 50/50 split with Manny(nor should he), but he'd certainly demand a lot more than he got for any of the first 4 after scoring that KO. I'd bet the loss to Bradley hurt his earning power as far as other prospective fights as well.

How does a win over Rios push Pac over JMM based on a common opponent loss to Bradley? Its 50/50 or no go. The mindset that all you have that Pac deserves the bigger purse is why no Mayweather fight has evolved.

Pac is worth much more than Marquez regardless of his KO loss. Marquez-Bradley did 300,000 PPV. Pac-Rios did 500,000. Pac-Bradley did 750,000.

Pac's guarantee against Rios was $18m. Marquez made $6m against Bradley. Pac got $26m+ against Bradley.

When it comes to money, it doesn't matter who the better fighter is, just who's the better seller.

The public will not pay to see another Rios like caliber vs Pac. Half of the intrigue was the comeback itself. But the problem is not JMM it is Bradley does not sell . Pac vs Bradley was not all that successful and neither will the rematch with either of the two. However JMM just fights the fights he needs/wants . Pac fights for Arums big top Circus.

[Addicted to_boxing]

That's all very true, but I doubt any of that would deter him if the money was right. Besides, if he isn't confident that he could KO Manny again, he shouldn't be fighting anyone. I don't want to see a fifth fight, but where else does he go?
Anyone know what he made for the 4th fight, or against Bradley in comparison? I'd imagine he could fight any 3 guys and not make as much as he would given a closer split with Pacman.

$6 million against both. Bear in mind Pac's money was $25m/Bradley's $4m. So obviously a Pac fight is worth shitloads more than anyone else.

Wow, thanks. Guess that's half your answer right there. He's clearly never going to get anywhere near a 50/50 split with Manny(nor should he), but he'd certainly demand a lot more than he got for any of the first 4 after scoring that KO. I'd bet the loss to Bradley hurt his earning power as far as other prospective fights as well.

How does a win over Rios push Pac over JMM based on a common opponent loss to Bradley? Its 50/50 or no go. The mindset that all you have that Pac deserves the bigger purse is why no Mayweather fight has evolved.

Pac is worth much more than Marquez regardless of his KO loss. Marquez-Bradley did 300,000 PPV. Pac-Rios did 500,000. Pac-Bradley did 750,000.

Pac's guarantee against Rios was $18m. Marquez made $6m against Bradley. Pac got $26m+ against Bradley.

When it comes to money, it doesn't matter who the better fighter is, just who's the better seller.

The public will not pay to see another Rios like caliber vs Pac. Half of the intrigue was the comeback itself. But the problem is not JMM it is Bradley does not sell . Pac vs Bradley was not all that successful and neither will the rematch with either of the two. However JMM just fights the fights he needs/wants . Pac fights for Arums big top Circus.

You forgot to mention that the 18 million was guaranteed Chinese money. Address the venue and its importance. Then you see Pac vs Rios was a real flop and dispels you comment.

[Fenster]

That's all very true, but I doubt any of that would deter him if the money was right. Besides, if he isn't confident that he could KO Manny again, he shouldn't be fighting anyone. I don't want to see a fifth fight, but where else does he go?
Anyone know what he made for the 4th fight, or against Bradley in comparison? I'd imagine he could fight any 3 guys and not make as much as he would given a closer split with Pacman.

$6 million against both. Bear in mind Pac's money was $25m/Bradley's $4m. So obviously a Pac fight is worth shitloads more than anyone else.

Wow, thanks. Guess that's half your answer right there. He's clearly never going to get anywhere near a 50/50 split with Manny(nor should he), but he'd certainly demand a lot more than he got for any of the first 4 after scoring that KO. I'd bet the loss to Bradley hurt his earning power as far as other prospective fights as well.

How does a win over Rios push Pac over JMM based on a common opponent loss to Bradley? Its 50/50 or no go. The mindset that all you have that Pac deserves the bigger purse is why no Mayweather fight has evolved.

Pac is worth much more than Marquez regardless of his KO loss. Marquez-Bradley did 300,000 PPV. Pac-Rios did 500,000. Pac-Bradley did 750,000.

Pac's guarantee against Rios was $18m. Marquez made $6m against Bradley. Pac got $26m+ against Bradley.

When it comes to money, it doesn't matter who the better fighter is, just who's the better seller.

The public will not pay to see another Rios like caliber vs Pac. Half of the intrigue was the comeback itself. But the problem is not JMM it is Bradley does not sell . Pac vs Bradley was not all that successful and neither will the rematch with either of the two. However JMM just fights the fights he needs/wants . Pac fights for Arums big top Circus.

You forgot to mention that the 18 million was guaranteed Chinese money. Address the venue and its importance. Then you see Pac vs Rios was a real flop and dispels you comment.

"dispels you comment?" What?

I produced figures that show how much bigger a draw/earner Pac is than Marquez. That's all. I think both are great fighters. If you want to ignore facts like that feel free.

[Addicted to_boxing]

That's all very true, but I doubt any of that would deter him if the money was right. Besides, if he isn't confident that he could KO Manny again, he shouldn't be fighting anyone. I don't want to see a fifth fight, but where else does he go?
Anyone know what he made for the 4th fight, or against Bradley in comparison? I'd imagine he could fight any 3 guys and not make as much as he would given a closer split with Pacman.

$6 million against both. Bear in mind Pac's money was $25m/Bradley's $4m. So obviously a Pac fight is worth shitloads more than anyone else.

Wow, thanks. Guess that's half your answer right there. He's clearly never going to get anywhere near a 50/50 split with Manny(nor should he), but he'd certainly demand a lot more than he got for any of the first 4 after scoring that KO. I'd bet the loss to Bradley hurt his earning power as far as other prospective fights as well.

How does a win over Rios push Pac over JMM based on a common opponent loss to Bradley? Its 50/50 or no go. The mindset that all you have that Pac deserves the bigger purse is why no Mayweather fight has evolved.

Pac is worth much more than Marquez regardless of his KO loss. Marquez-Bradley did 300,000 PPV. Pac-Rios did 500,000. Pac-Bradley did 750,000.

Pac's guarantee against Rios was $18m. Marquez made $6m against Bradley. Pac got $26m+ against Bradley.

When it comes to money, it doesn't matter who the better fighter is, just who's the better seller.

The public will not pay to see another Rios like caliber vs Pac. Half of the intrigue was the comeback itself. But the problem is not JMM it is Bradley does not sell . Pac vs Bradley was not all that successful and neither will the rematch with either of the two. However JMM just fights the fights he needs/wants . Pac fights for Arums big top Circus.

You forgot to mention that the 18 million was guaranteed Chinese money. Address the venue and its importance. Then you see Pac vs Rios was a real flop and dispels you comment.

"dispels you comment?" What?

I produced figures that show how much bigger a draw/earner Pac is than Marquez. That's all. I think both are great fighters. If you want to ignore facts like that feel free.

I have to agree with after the Bradley loss. Had JMM won that would not be the case. The reason Pac out draws JMM is Arum always puts little dollars into JMM fights