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    Excuse me, I always switch up Macklin and Murray, darn MM names :-/.

    Comparing Floyd who fought multiple champions at 130, a champ at 135, a champ at 140, multiple champions at 147 and multiple champions at 154 to a guy who as of yet has fought no big fights makes no sense.

    You say Floyd should move up AGAIN for ANOTHER big fight. GGG hasn't moved up once, there is a very clear difference and I can't figure out why tbis guy keeps getting excused. He's done NOTHING. I want to see him be the fighter I said he could be but so far I'm embarrassed I said he was the best at 160 years ago.

    He is 32 years old and needs to get out of that wasteland of a division and go make a big fight, his first big fight

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Swanson View Post
    Excuse me, I always switch up Macklin and Murray, darn MM names :-/.

    Comparing Floyd who fought multiple champions at 130, a champ at 135, a champ at 140, multiple champions at 147 and multiple champions at 154 to a guy who as of yet has fought no big fights makes no sense.

    You say Floyd should move up AGAIN for ANOTHER big fight. GGG hasn't moved up once, there is a very clear difference and I can't figure out why tbis guy keeps getting excused. He's done NOTHING. I want to see him be the fighter I said he could be but so far I'm embarrassed I said he was the best at 160 years ago.

    He is 32 years old and needs to get out of that wasteland of a division and go make a big fight, his first big fight
    I disagree with this post. GGG has fought the best possible middleweights out there. Has he turned down a fight at 160? Not that I'm aware of. There are still plenty of good fights for him at 160 including Martinez, Murray, Geale and Sturm (Quillin doesn't count because he's on the other side of the street with networks and promoters). He has not cleaned out the division. In my opinion, he should clean out the division before he moves up. If there comes a point in time, maybe one year from now, where Martinez has retired without facing him, and Murray, Geale and Sturm continue to refuse to face him, then let's reconsider him moving up. At this point though, it's premature.

    This is in stark contrast to Ward who has cleaned out the division. Ward should consider moving up in weight now because he's beat everyone at his weight. What else is there left to prove at 168 for Ward? Nothing in my opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rantcatrat View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Swanson View Post
    Excuse me, I always switch up Macklin and Murray, darn MM names :-/.

    Comparing Floyd who fought multiple champions at 130, a champ at 135, a champ at 140, multiple champions at 147 and multiple champions at 154 to a guy who as of yet has fought no big fights makes no sense.

    You say Floyd should move up AGAIN for ANOTHER big fight. GGG hasn't moved up once, there is a very clear difference and I can't figure out why tbis guy keeps getting excused. He's done NOTHING. I want to see him be the fighter I said he could be but so far I'm embarrassed I said he was the best at 160 years ago.

    He is 32 years old and needs to get out of that wasteland of a division and go make a big fight, his first big fight
    I disagree with this post. GGG has fought the best possible middleweights out there. Has he turned down a fight at 160? Not that I'm aware of. There are still plenty of good fights for him at 160 including Martinez, Murray, Geale and Sturm (Quillin doesn't count because he's on the other side of the street with networks and promoters). He has not cleaned out the division. In my opinion, he should clean out the division before he moves up. If there comes a point in time, maybe one year from now, where Martinez has retired without facing him, and Murray, Geale and Sturm continue to refuse to face him, then let's reconsider him moving up. At this point though, it's premature.

    This is in stark contrast to Ward who has cleaned out the division. Ward should consider moving up in weight now because he's beat everyone at his weight. What else is there left to prove at 168 for Ward? Nothing in my opinion.

    I wonder if Ward has the balls to come down in weight to challenge GGG the way Dawson came down for him. If Ward did that and won he would get a lot of credit I think and would earn a small legion of fans that are on the GGG train.
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    GGG has no chance vs Ward. He needs to stay far away from him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beanflicker View Post
    GGG has no chance vs Ward. He needs to stay far away from him.
    Absolutely none, jesus christ couldnt help him. Andre ward would make him look like a pedestrian.

    Ward Tko9 GGG

    Just wake me up when GGG fights an A level opposition..

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    Default Re: GGGs trainer says "he's not ready"

    he just doesnt have many people around him to fight. at least he has been active. thats better than most people in his position can say.

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    GGG is doing the best he can with what is available for him. He has belts and is the disputed middleweight champion. Sergio is the only one that has a case but he is inactive and ready to retire. What more can GGG do at this weight? I am sure he will move up eventually but maybe he is too small for that yet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beanflicker View Post
    GGG has no chance vs Ward. He needs to stay far away from him.
    At 160? There is every chance Ward gets KTFO by GGG at 160.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Onix View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Rantcatrat View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Swanson View Post
    Excuse me, I always switch up Macklin and Murray, darn MM names :-/.

    Comparing Floyd who fought multiple champions at 130, a champ at 135, a champ at 140, multiple champions at 147 and multiple champions at 154 to a guy who as of yet has fought no big fights makes no sense.

    You say Floyd should move up AGAIN for ANOTHER big fight. GGG hasn't moved up once, there is a very clear difference and I can't figure out why tbis guy keeps getting excused. He's done NOTHING. I want to see him be the fighter I said he could be but so far I'm embarrassed I said he was the best at 160 years ago.

    He is 32 years old and needs to get out of that wasteland of a division and go make a big fight, his first big fight
    I disagree with this post. GGG has fought the best possible middleweights out there. Has he turned down a fight at 160? Not that I'm aware of. There are still plenty of good fights for him at 160 including Martinez, Murray, Geale and Sturm (Quillin doesn't count because he's on the other side of the street with networks and promoters). He has not cleaned out the division. In my opinion, he should clean out the division before he moves up. If there comes a point in time, maybe one year from now, where Martinez has retired without facing him, and Murray, Geale and Sturm continue to refuse to face him, then let's reconsider him moving up. At this point though, it's premature.

    This is in stark contrast to Ward who has cleaned out the division. Ward should consider moving up in weight now because he's beat everyone at his weight. What else is there left to prove at 168 for Ward? Nothing in my opinion.

    I wonder if Ward has the balls to come down in weight to challenge GGG the way Dawson came down for him. If Ward did that and won he would get a lot of credit I think and would earn a small legion of fans that are on the GGG train.
    That's actually a decent point. Would Ward do the fight at 160? Have they spoken about fighting at middleweight?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rantcatrat View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Onix View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Rantcatrat View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Swanson View Post
    Excuse me, I always switch up Macklin and Murray, darn MM names :-/.

    Comparing Floyd who fought multiple champions at 130, a champ at 135, a champ at 140, multiple champions at 147 and multiple champions at 154 to a guy who as of yet has fought no big fights makes no sense.

    You say Floyd should move up AGAIN for ANOTHER big fight. GGG hasn't moved up once, there is a very clear difference and I can't figure out why tbis guy keeps getting excused. He's done NOTHING. I want to see him be the fighter I said he could be but so far I'm embarrassed I said he was the best at 160 years ago.

    He is 32 years old and needs to get out of that wasteland of a division and go make a big fight, his first big fight
    I disagree with this post. GGG has fought the best possible middleweights out there. Has he turned down a fight at 160? Not that I'm aware of. There are still plenty of good fights for him at 160 including Martinez, Murray, Geale and Sturm (Quillin doesn't count because he's on the other side of the street with networks and promoters). He has not cleaned out the division. In my opinion, he should clean out the division before he moves up. If there comes a point in time, maybe one year from now, where Martinez has retired without facing him, and Murray, Geale and Sturm continue to refuse to face him, then let's reconsider him moving up. At this point though, it's premature.

    This is in stark contrast to Ward who has cleaned out the division. Ward should consider moving up in weight now because he's beat everyone at his weight. What else is there left to prove at 168 for Ward? Nothing in my opinion.

    I wonder if Ward has the balls to come down in weight to challenge GGG the way Dawson came down for him. If Ward did that and won he would get a lot of credit I think and would earn a small legion of fans that are on the GGG train.
    That's actually a decent point. Would Ward do the fight at 160? Have they spoken about fighting at middleweight?
    Ward strikes me as the type that wouldn't give any advantage to anyone, I like Ward as a person and he is a great fighter but he doesn't have that blind hunger to be #1 at all costs.
    The key is Self-discipline.

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    I think theres no point in GGG moving up yet if he can easily make the weight. Theres still decent fights to be made at 160 for him like Martinez, Quillen, Murray and Sturm. If he can beat all of these fighters he should move up then. As his trainer said it will give him a bigger bargaining tool with Ward and will bring the fight on an even level, not Ward demanding more with his higher p4p ranking. GGG needs to fight the best in the weight class now, I cant see Adama lasting too long with him and this kind of fight does nothing but add another KO onto his record. I hope GGG steps it up the fight after this one.

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    Shaw: HBO Took a Pass on Golovkin-Geale Fight - Boxing News

    Apparently Geale turned down the monte carlo date with GGG because he wanted them to fight on HBO. GGG has an april date with HBO but HBO have passed on a GGG-Geale showdown and apparently James Kirkland is going to fight GGG. I think GGG-Geale is a better match than a Kirkland one, but no doubt GGG-Kirkland would be fireworks whilst it lasted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tam Seddon View Post
    I think theres no point in GGG moving up yet if he can easily make the weight. Theres still decent fights to be made at 160 for him like Martinez, Quillen, Murray and Sturm. If he can beat all of these fighters he should move up then. As his trainer said it will give him a bigger bargaining tool with Ward and will bring the fight on an even level, not Ward demanding more with his higher p4p ranking. GGG needs to fight the best in the weight class now, I cant see Adama lasting too long with him and this kind of fight does nothing but add another KO onto his record. I hope GGG steps it up the fight after this one.
    If GGG was fighting Quillen, Martinez or even Geale then sure stay at MW. But he isn't. As for this proposed Kirkland fight, I've seen him fight enough Jr Middles at Middleweight. I'm beginning to think I'm just not a GGG fan because his people are lying. The story that they can fight all those Middleweights and then move to 168 for Ward is hogwash. Ward will be at 175 soon. If GGGs people said we have no interest in Ward we're cleaning out Middleweight I could support that. But deception from a camp that still hasn't earnned the right to BS is offensive. I'll be a fan when he finally steps up, you all can watch these garbage mismatches I won't

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    A 32 year old "champion" of 8 defenses yet to take on a top fighter, something is wrong with that picture. And even though there are good fighters that want to fight him everyone seems to give him free reign to pass because he says he's going to fight the top Middleweights even though there is no supportive evidence that he will. In fact there is reasonable evidence other things are in the works.

    It's mind bottling

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    GGG is on that Lucian Bute style bum tour.. Shit better come to a halt sometime cuz seriously, it's starting to turn into a joke.

    I dont consider him a real champion.. How the hell can you be a champion when you've never fought an elite opposition..

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