London will be overrun by 29 million Romanians and Bulgarians

[ryanman]

An extimated 5 million came in in a decade and your chart shows far fewer leaving. It is hardly making the case that the arrangment is fair and working. English employment has been shown to have gone down and foreign employment has risen exponentially. Just not a fair balance of labour income and outcome, is it really.

Farage's predicted 29 Million turns out to be two dozen at present, hardly a fair or balanced prediction on which the thread is based would you not agree ?

UK immigration: only two dozen Romanians have arrived since January 1, says ambassador - Telegraph

[ryanman]

Please everyone read the article Greenbeanz has posted. It's really making me smile.

[Gandalf]

I have, but as I have said a matter of days ago, it is January and freezing cold here. Who would be on an uncertain job hunt in the middle of the English winter. It is more realistic to evaluated numbers at the end of a genuine period of time like a year. They will be significant and mock me if I am wrong, but make me King if I am right.

Greenbeanz thinks he's won some kind of argument. What a clown. It's the middle of bloody January.

[Beanz]

It's not about winning arguments though is it Miles? Yourself and Brockton have been manipulated by UKIP's misinformation campaign and will be too embarrassed to admit it in a weeks time, a months time or a year's time. You never concede anything because you are a pompous twit.

[Gandalf]

It's not about winning arguments though is it Miles? Yourself and Brockton have been manipulated by UKIP's misinformation campaign and will be too embarrassed to admit it in a weeks time, a months time or a year's time. You never concede anything because you are a pompous twit.

I can and do admit when I am wrong. Two weeks is a ridiculously short time to evaluate the development of an open labour market. These things take time. In fact, I hope that I am proven wrong as I don't think it would be fair to have a hundred thousand migrants.

[Beanz]

29 million not a hundred thousand.

[ryanman]

Yeah sure more will still come. But 25ish in two weeks is probably statistically relevant enough to say that
the numbers aren't coming as Farage et al stated. He promised us the 'buses would be full, the planes would be full'. Hmm, try one minibus full .

[Gandalf]

I have never said 29 million though and I stand by my numbers and them alone. 29 million is silly, there are only just over double that already in the UK. True, not many so far, but, but, but...time, give it time. British Poland wasn't built in 2 weeks.

[Kirkland Laing]

[Master]

They are Japanese.

[Kirkland Laing]

[Gandalf]

Still not seeing it.

Kirkland, you are one of the best posters in text form. Please just do what you are good at doing.

[Beanz]

Just more posturing from Kirkland who obviously has nothing constructive to add to the debate. He is advocating loading immigrants into shipping containers and dropping them into the ocean. It's weird how the seemingly rational can advocate treating human beings willing to travel hundreds of miles in order to work with such callousness. I have had to in the past travel all over the shop in order to work in the UK and Europe. Sometimes unskilled jobs so it would be very hypocritical of me to castigate others for doing the same. I wonder what Kirkland thinks should happen to his less than honest colleagues in the financial sector who have genuinely "ripped off the British tax payer"? Give them a bonus?

[VictorCharlie]

I'm not sure Kirk was saying to load immigrants into shipping containers and drop them into the sea with that photo and in fairness Kirk doesn't like his fellow financiers very much. Really he is just Saddo's most celebrated troll looking to get a rise out of people.

[Dia bando]

Let me ask you do you think, our system can handle more immigration, Housing , NHS , Jobs,
as our system is there to be raped.
I was talking to a Bulgarian he showed me pictures of his home, a shit hole to say the least,
extremely poor, what did he say it's easy over here I shall bring my family over, I shall get a house
for them.

Make your own mind up on this, were I live this will not improve our standard of living one bit
I'm telling the truth, I don't bullshit I say it as I see it,