Mayweather says his last fight is Sept 2015

[Gandalf]

I don't think he will go down as one the greatest because of the picking and choosing, time outs, and refusal to fight Manny.

LOL, Floyd not one of the greatest?

Well, yeah. Castillo took him hard and Hatton was on him until corruption. All around pick and opponent jazz. He hasn't proven himself the greatest. He really isn't.

[p4pking]

Took him hard could be a little Freudian there But seriously, because he was in two competitive fights against world class guys, that lessens his standing somehow? Feel free to point out a fighter who took on all the best challengers possible over years and wasn't given any run for their money, those guys must be slipping my mind.

[Gandalf]

Took him hard could be a little Freudian there But seriously, because he was in two competitive fights against world class guys, that lessens his standing somehow? Feel free to point out a fighter who took on all the best challengers possible over years and wasn't given any run for their money, those guys must be slipping my mind.

Close fights in a career of irregular fights at the higher weights. Mayweather has just been tripping and looking for doors. Canelo? He was fighting Matthew Hatton a few fights before. So shit.

Floyd has got silly.

[p4pking]

Took him hard could be a little Freudian there But seriously, because he was in two competitive fights against world class guys, that lessens his standing somehow? Feel free to point out a fighter who took on all the best challengers possible over years and wasn't given any run for their money, those guys must be slipping my mind.

Close fights in a career of irregular fights at the higher weights. Mayweather has just been tripping and looking for doors. Canelo? He was fighting Matthew Hatton a few fights before. So shit.

Floyd has got silly.

Canelo was far and away the most in demand opponent available Miles, give me a break. If Floyd hadn't fought him everyone would still be adamant that he is/was ducking the guy. It's always once he's beaten people that they were suddenly crap all along, unless they actually performed well against him and then it's because Floyd isn't that great You can do that with any fighter ever and it's boring as hell. The man has a better record than anyone in decades, only Leonard even comes close and that's because he had rivals. If you were to take away 2 of his fights he doesn't compare either.

[Beanflicker]

Well, yeah. Castillo took him hard and Hatton was on him until corruption. All around pick and opponent jazz. He hasn't proven himself the greatest. He really isn't.

So he's not a great fighter because he's had a couple of tough fights in his career

The guy has been a world champion since 1998. In that 16 YEAR span from then to the present, he's fought nothing but top eschelon guys, most of whom were champions or at least top 5, winning belts from super featherweight to light middleweight.

In that time, not only has he remained unbeaten, but he's won mostly in a way where he has completely dominated his opponents, and allowed him to take minimal damage.

In doing so, he's become the biggest star in boxing history. In this era of highly paid athletes, he is the highest paid of them all.

And he doesn't qualify as an all time great?? Fuck, if that isn't great, I don't know what is.

[Master]

Well, yeah. Castillo took him hard and Hatton was on him until corruption. All around pick and opponent jazz. He hasn't proven himself the greatest. He really isn't.

So he's not a great fighter because he's had a couple of tough fights in his career

The guy has been a world champion since 1998. In that 16 YEAR span from then to the present, he's fought nothing but top eschelon guys, most of whom were champions or at least top 5, winning belts from super featherweight to light middleweight.

In that time, not only has he remained unbeaten, but he's won mostly in a way where he has completely dominated his opponents, and allowed him to take minimal damage.

In doing so, he's become the biggest star in boxing history. In this era of highly paid athletes, he is the highest paid of them all.

And he doesn't qualify as an all time great?? Fuck, if that isn't great, I don't know what is.

Biggest star in boxing history! GTFOH, boxing existed before Floyd and will carry long after he has left. He has done nothing that Pernell Whitaker has not done already.

[Beanflicker]

Biggest star in boxing history! GTFOH, boxing existed before Floyd and will carry long after he has left. He has done nothing that Pernell Whitaker has not done already.

Pernell Fucking Whitaker? You're going to tell me Pernell Whitaker had the fucking star power of a Floyd Mayweather?

I love Pernell, he's one of my all time, but the only thing he has over Floyd is the Gold medal.

Pernell never achieved anywhere near the fame, fortune, or recognition that Floyd has. And like it or not, as amazing as Pernell was, Floyd was the better technician.

Floyd has generated more money for boxing that anyone. And he's doing it in an era where the world could give a fuck less about boxing. It's a dying sport. It's not a mainstream, household sport like it was back in the days of Ali, Leonard, Tyson, ect. He's selling 2.4 MILLION FUCKING PPVS in this day and age and you're talking about Pernell Whitaker? You should be pistol whipped for being so stupid.

[mikeeod]

I consider Floyd an ATG, n depending on the day n what I focus on I consider him the best of his generation. There is no denying Floyd's skills or accomplishments, as he has undoubtedly the best combination of talent, skill, ring intelligence, n work ethic. Guys like Roy n PAC r equally gifted but not as skilled, guys like Hop have equal skills n work ethic, but aren't as naturally gifted.

In my opinion Floyd is nowhere near the top ten or twenty ATGs like his fanboys say. Nor is he the overrated cherry picker his haters say he is. Floyd has some great wins against tough opposition, some wins against big names past their prime, n some missed fights against guys who could've helped cement his legacy.

Chico n Hatton along with maybe Castillo in the rematch were Fliyds most impressive wins to me. Baldomir, Oscar, Genaro Hernandez, n Canelo were slightly lower in stature. Jesus Chavez, Famoso Hernandez, Zab Judah, Gatti, Angel Manfredy, n Robert Guerrero were all tough, worthy challengers n good wins. Mosely was old when they finally fought, Victor Ortiz is not impressive, Henry Bruselles shouldn't have shared a ring with Floyd, Corley is inconsistent, n Miguel Cotto was well past his best days like Misely when Floyd finally fought him.

I don't think Floyd ducked anyone, but he never fought Casameyor, Frietas, Paul Williams, Manny, Prime Cotto or Mosely, Kostya Tszyu, Stevie Johnston. Now, I'm not saying he was scared, or that any of those guys should be favored to beat him, BUT, he should have proven his superiority to them in the ring. I also think a few of those guys had a good chance of pulling out the upset.

[FinitoElDinamita]

I just read this new article where Larry Holmes said Floyd will turn dead broke soon ...
Man so many black guys be hating on him. Why? Cuz they can sense a fake ass nigga