Froch to decide on Groves or Chavez Jr in next two weeks

[Kirkland Laing]

If Froch dodges Groves it'll just add to the list of fights he's bottled or tried to weasel out of when he thought he might lose.

[smashup]

If Froch dodges Groves it'll just add to the list of fights he's bottled or tried to weasel out of when he thought he might lose.

The IBF announce the verdict on 25th Jan.

Froch would look a total cunt if he chose to dump the belt and swerve Groves in light of that

[Master]

Froch will want Chavez for the money and avoiding Groves, in that order. Business.

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See Fensters post. Chavez is far from a cert to win the Vera rematch, and who knows if he will even make 168 there! Is that even the agreed weight It could be another last minute 180 pound catchweight with Jr throwing 2 punches a round and not getting a gift this time, then what does Froch do. If Carl really doesn't want to rematch Groves, he may as well move up to 175 imo. He'd probably want to avoid a handful of guys, but could land a rematch with Pascal on HBO perhaps...

[FinitoElDinamita]

U guys still questioning chavez? Lol he's gonna beat joe blow vera no problem.. anyone wanna put something on that im down..

But if froch chooses chavez over St.George, there is just no way to justify that move.

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U guys still questioning chavez? Lol he's gonna beat joe blow vera no problem.. anyone wanna put something on that im down..

But if froch chooses chavez over St.George, there is just no way to justify that move.

He's about as questionable a fighter as there is with a high profile, and he got a complete gift in the first fight. He couldn't beat you no problem based on that form, it is an absolute no brainer for any good 168 pounder to fight him. Any idea what weight the Vera rematch is set at? Or are they waiting to see what Jr can make again and announcing it 4 days before the fight

[FinitoElDinamita]

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U guys still questioning chavez? Lol he's gonna beat joe blow vera no problem.. anyone wanna put something on that im down..

But if froch chooses chavez over St.George, there is just no way to justify that move.

He's about as questionable a fighter as there is with a high profile, and he got a complete gift in the first fight. He couldn't beat you no problem based on that form, it is an absolute no brainer for any good 168 pounder to fight him. Any idea what weight the Vera rematch is set at? Or are they waiting to see what Jr can make again and announcing it 4 days before the fight[/QUOTE]

lol yea that was ridiculous and probably have never seen anything like it before..

Rematch is at 168 and Chavez says there will be no problems this time..

Joe blow Vera getting beat up this time..

[Kirkland Laing]

U guys still questioning chavez? Lol he's gonna beat joe blow vera no problem.. anyone wanna put something on that im down..

But if froch chooses chavez over St.George, there is just no way to justify that move.

He's about as questionable a fighter as there is with a high profile, and he got a complete gift in the first fight. He couldn't beat you no problem based on that form, it is an absolute no brainer for any good 168 pounder to fight him. Any idea what weight the Vera rematch is set at? Or are they waiting to see what Jr can make again and announcing it 4 days before the fight

The weight limit for Bera is 168 and the weight limit for Chavez is 168-180. Anything over 180 and Chavez has to pay a $20 a pound fine and there'll be a weigh-in at 10am on the morning of the fight at which Chavez can't weigh more than 210 or he has to pay Vera $100.

The contract also stipulates that Chavez can only test positive for one (1) banned substance but Chavez is now saying that he's moving his training camp to Denver so cannabis shouldn't be on the banned substance list for this fight.

[powerpuncher]

U guys still questioning chavez? Lol he's gonna beat joe blow vera no problem.. anyone wanna put something on that im down..

But if froch chooses chavez over St.George, there is just no way to justify that move.

does anybody think that he is any good?

[Fenster]

The IBF can't force Froch to fight Groves though, he can just drop the belt if he wants, Groves will then fight for the vacant title. (the fight doesn't even need a belt)

Groves doesn't want that though because he knows the rematch, win or lose, is possibily the biggest payday he'll ever see and Hearn certainly doesn't want to miss the opportunity of cashing in on a PPV stadium fight that will earn shitloads.

Matchroom (Hearn) will be the most gutted mob on earth if this don't happen.

[Kirkland Laing]

Froch will want Chavez for the money and avoiding Groves, in that order. Business.

The money fight for Froch is Groves. Chavez is the star in America, he can fight Vera and sell a lot of tickets and get paid by HBO. Froch would get the short end of any purse against Chavez. In Britain the pound is worth one and a half dollars, the fight would be in a stadium and on PPV. Froch would make 3-5 times more fighting Groves than fighting Chavez.

[IamInuit]

Froch will want Chavez for the money and avoiding Groves, in that order. Business.

The money fight for Froch is Groves. Chavez is the star in America, he can fight Vera and sell a lot of tickets and get paid by HBO. Froch would get the short end of any purse against Chavez. In Britain the pound is worth one and a half dollars, the fight would be in a stadium and on PPV. Froch would make 3-5 times more fighting Groves than fighting Chavez.

I think its a win/win for Carl and a smart business move. It makes the Groves rematch even bigger down the road. The Chavez fight will no doubt be a pretty decent payday in its own right. Carl may have slipped some and he's not a hard guy to find so imo there is a certain amount of risk attached.
I would have assumed Chavez would have gotten the shot at Bika first given the politics and nepotistic practices of the Wbc. I'll be a little surprised tbh if Froch/Chavez gets finalized even with the press reporting it to be close.

Maybe Groves can get the Ward fight and a big pay day/exposure date on this side of the pond. Its a win/win for him also. A loss to Andre does nothing to harm his career.

[Bo-Bo24]

I think Froch will fight Chavez next and Groves will fight a contender to stay busy and win. What ever happens I think they'll fight after that. They want some time to pass to grow the fight even more but they know Froch only has so much time left. Froch has done a lot of talking about his legacy and Groves is a good way of going about it knowing that he stands little chance against Ward who isn't too keen on a fight this side of the Atlantic. My question is though how big a fight is Froch vs Chavez in America?

[Kirkland Laing]

Froch will want Chavez for the money and avoiding Groves, in that order. Business.

The money fight for Froch is Groves. Chavez is the star in America, he can fight Vera and sell a lot of tickets and get paid by HBO. Froch would get the short end of any purse against Chavez. In Britain the pound is worth one and a half dollars, the fight would be in a stadium and on PPV. Froch would make 3-5 times more fighting Groves than fighting Chavez.

I think its a win/win for Carl and a smart business move. It makes the Groves rematch even bigger down the road. The Chavez fight will no doubt be a pretty decent payday in its own right. Carl may have slipped some and he's not a hard guy to find so imo there is a certain amount of risk attached.
I would have assumed Chavez would have gotten the shot at Bika first given the politics and nepotistic practices of the Wbc. I'll be a little surprised tbh if Froch/Chavez gets finalized even with the press reporting it to be close.

Maybe Groves can get the Ward fight and a big pay day/exposure date on this side of the pond. Its a win/win for him also. A loss to Andre does nothing to harm his career.

If Groves goes and loses his next fight it takes the lustre off it. Groves now has to try and find a one fight deal with somebody or else he's going to be locked into a deal with Hearn with no guarantee of a Froch rematch.

[smashup]

Froch will want Chavez for the money and avoiding Groves, in that order. Business.

The money fight for Froch is Groves. Chavez is the star in America, he can fight Vera and sell a lot of tickets and get paid by HBO. Froch would get the short end of any purse against Chavez. In Britain the pound is worth one and a half dollars, the fight would be in a stadium and on PPV. Froch would make 3-5 times more fighting Groves than fighting Chavez.

I think its a win/win for Carl and a smart business move. It makes the Groves rematch even bigger down the road. The Chavez fight will no doubt be a pretty decent payday in its own right. Carl may have slipped some and he's not a hard guy to find so imo there is a certain amount of risk attached.
I would have assumed Chavez would have gotten the shot at Bika first given the politics and nepotistic practices of the Wbc. I'll be a little surprised tbh if Froch/Chavez gets finalized even with the press reporting it to be close.

Maybe Groves can get the Ward fight and a big pay day/exposure date on this side of the pond. Its a win/win for him also. A loss to Andre does nothing to harm his career.

If Groves goes and loses his next fight it takes the lustre off it. Groves now has to try and find a one fight deal with somebody or else he's going to be locked into a deal with Hearn with no guarantee of a Froch rematch.

Groves needs a promoter/manager asap.