Evander Holyfield: "Mike Tyson Took Steroids"

[Dark Lord Al]

Evander Holyfield is the one that took steroids, it was blatantly obvious from his heavily muscled physique, vascularity and incredibly low body fat.

Tyson was just naturally strong and would've wiped the floor with Holyfield were he in his prime under Cus D'amato.
If Tyson took steroids he'd punch a hole through Holyfield's chest.

I couldn't help but read that out loud in a booming theatrical comic book reading voice.

Try it in the voice of Stan Lee , it works well.

[Beanz]

Evander Holyfield is the one that took steroids, it was blatantly obvious from his heavily muscled physique, vascularity and incredibly low body fat.

Tyson was just naturally strong and would've wiped the floor with Holyfield were he in his prime under Cus D'amato.
If Tyson took steroids he'd punch a hole through Holyfield's chest.

I couldn't help but read that out loud in a booming theatrical comic book reading voice.

Try it in the voice of Stan Lee , it works well.

You are right Al that is a humdinger of a first post, even if it was penned by Stan Lee. Great handle too.

[Master]

Tyson did not take PED, he was all natural. His decline was because he was mismanaged, lacked the discipline and burnt out far too early than he should have. Also if he took PED he would have admitted to it by now, as he has admitted to nearly everything else.

[Beanflicker]

Also if he took PED he would have admitted to it by now, as he has admitted to nearly everything else.

That's the logic a lot of people come up with, but I don't think it applies. Mike has no problem slamming himself personally and shitting on himself because everyone knows he was a shit person. That cat was let out of the bag a long time ago.

I finished his book a few weeks ago, and while he certainly paints himself as a piece of shit motherfucker outside the ring, whenever he talks about himself a boxer it's always with great pride. As ashamed as he is of his clusterfuck of a life, he's still very proud of his boxing career IMO (as well he should be, he was one of the biggest superstars in boxing history and the GREATEST heavyweight puncher of all time). So while he's quick to discredit himself as a person, I don't think that necessarily means he would be quick to discredit himself as a boxer. Two different things.

Nobody is 100% honest about everything. People can be 100% honest about one subject and very secretive and guarded about the others.

I'm not saying Mike did steroids, but if you don't think it's a possibility you're gullible as fuck.

[AdamGB]

You both have a point, he's been open about a lot of things, but other than his children, his boxing career is one of the few things I can think of that he will look back at with absolute pride.

Doesn't mean he would or wouldn't shit on it, but it's a separate thing to all of the stuff he has copped to. Like has been said, he was HUGE at 13 years old. It's nothing more than a possibility either way and will probably always be.

[Beanflicker]

Like has been said, he was HUGE at 13 years old. It's nothing more than a possibility either way and will probably always be.

Mike had great genetics, that's for sure. One doesn't simply take steroids and hit like Mike Tyson: there are tons of guys who take steroids and none of them hit like Tyson. Mike was a special athlete and boxer, if he did take PED's it only served to enhance his already special attributes and really put him over the top.

But when you got a guy who admits he was cheating drug tests like they were a joke, that's got to raise suspicions. He knew he could have had anything in his system that he wanted and not get caught. Mike was a ruthless mofo in the ring, trying to kill guys with his fists, forearms, elbows or whatever else he could get away with. He doesn't strike me as a "cheater's never prosper" kind of guy, but whatever. He never got caught so all we can do is speculate.