America and pet laws..

[imp]

"How are the laws so 'lax' in the United States?"


.....indeed, I guess we should just chain ourselves up and assume everything is illegal unless specifically stated that it is legal the way everyone else thinks.

Also lots of people especially EVERYONE ON WORLDSTAR don't typically follow rules, guidelines, regulations, laws, etc....whatever kind of authority Government has they just don't care about it and plead ignorance if they get caught.

You dont see the laws being a teeny weeny bit lax when you can own a lion or hyena?

[Dia bando]

Remember we have domesticated animals, big cats, bears etc are wild animals and are not
pets, to large to strong and very unpredictable plus they can kill and eat you.
Why put yourself in danger, only a fool would own one as a pet.

[Fenster]

Anyone that tries to make a pet out of a "wild" animal deserves to be eaten alive by it. There's no excuse.

For the record - it's only about 30 years ago that Harrods - that's the big famous store in London - stopped selling lions and tigers and whatnot.

[walrus]

Lions and what not are not kosher to own in the US. There are cases where people have gotten permits for one but it is rare. A lot of the laws vary from state to state.

[El Kabong]

You dont see the laws being a teeny weeny bit lax when you can own a lion or hyena?

imp, it's that kind of thought process which leads to people banning salt, large sodas, and trans fats. The idea that "people are too stupid to handle freedom and liberty" (which is always implied even in this case) is dangerously idiotic. Would I WANT to live where people own lions and tigers that could potentially break out and harm myself, my family, my dog....no....but again there are laws in the US about what type of dog breeds you can have, insurance companies WILL NOT sell you homeowners insurance if you have a certain kind of dog. And hell most people who live to become adults aren't able to house or pay for exotic pets like Lions and Hyenas...however if they ARE able to and they are responsible with said pets what business is it of mine if they want to own those animals?


I believe the English are in dire need of a lesson on LIBERTY. If it doesn't affect you, your happiness, your pursuit of a better life for yourself, the safety of your family (which in this case, could be debated but only in terms of safety for the animal and security for those living nearby rather than an outright ban) then you should just let it go. Let people do what makes them happy so long as it doesn't detract from your natural rights....what is so difficult about that?

[Beanflicker]

There needs to be some kind of regulation for these dangerous exotic pets, whereby you'd have to achieve some kind of certificate or qualification to own certain animals. The average joe shouldn't own a goddamn monkey or lion, that's insanity. I read Tyson's book where he was talking about owning his tigers and how dangerous they were. A tiger belongs in the wild, not in some rich, drug addicted asshole's mansion. Same with a monkey: these are wild, undomesticated animals. One thing we forget is pathetic the human body is physically compared to other similar-sized animals. A 100lb chimpanzee will rip your arm out of the socket and beat you with it. Physically we can't compete with these animals. I feel bad for a lot of these exotic animals, especially reptiles, that spend their decades of existence in a fucking heated tank so their owners can have a conversation piece. Buy a dog or a cat, you assholes.

I say this because I know first hand that most people aren't qualified to own a dog, let alone some exotic, undomesticated animal. I have a Rottweiler and from day one I spent so much time and energy socializing him with people and other dogs and animals so he would have a nice, friendly temperament. Which he does, but even still he is always weary and suspicious of strangers until they introduce themselves. If I just left him in the yard all day like a lot of meat heads do, he would be a real goddamn liability.

[El Kabong]

Yes I understand and support that Beanflicker, my point is that lots of people aren't qualified to raise kids but there aren't laws against them having kids. There are regulations they have to abide by to KEEP their kids though and that's my point.

Legion, a guy who used to post here (haven't seen him in a while) owned like every kind of deadly snake you could imagine. He had a few cobras if I recall correctly.

[Beanflicker]

The kid issue is a tough one because, while obviously there are a ton of people having kids who just shouldn't be having kids and consequently raising them to be threats/burdens to society, that infringes more on personal freedom because who the fuck is anyone to say you can't take an unprotected deep-dicking and get knocked up. It's your body, whatever. All the government can do is, through social services, try to ensure that the kid is not being abused or neglected.

I don't think anybody is having their personal freedom trampled on by being denied the right to own an exotic animal that belongs in an African jungle.

[Beanflicker]

We also have to consider the well being of the animal as well.

[El Kabong]

We also have to consider the well being of the animal as well.

yes of course

[imp]

Its everyones business if they OWN these animals because no human on earth can know the potential of their animal and what it intends to do next.

Simple Scenerio - man has the right to own a few tigers and bears but one of them gets loose and goes on a rampage.

Uk scenerio - man has the right to own a dog but gets loose and goes on a rampage.

Its pretty obvious which pet has the potential to cause many deaths compared to a few maulings.

Both are wrong but im just trying to understand if its just a few states that are allowed to own exotic pets or if its the whole country.

[imp]

Come on, el kabong!

Lets not go there!

Ive met loads of dog owners with staffies and pit bull type dogs but it does not stop with the owner.

No owner on earth can control a dog 24/7!

Its fine having free will and freedom blah blah blah but in this discussion and in your country would YOU have any issue with new neighbours moving next to you with a tiger or grizzly??

Do you have kids?

[imp]

If banning (not killing) every dangerous dog elimates any human death im 100% behind it.

Exotic animals belong in the wild and a certain amount in the zoo.

Im a human. And a human life is worth more to any type of animal no matter how nice or loyal that particular type of pet someone thinks it is as it relies on its owner for everything anyway, thats why their loyal.

I have nothing against dogs, or any type of exotic animal. I just do not believe that any type of typical average human being should own an animal such as the ones mentioned.

Im sure you wouldnt leave your 10 year old dog (if it was one of the known breeds) alone with you nieces as no matter how well you think you know your dog, any attack small or big could leave lifetime scarring or even worse.

In regards to the breed of humans that kill and are evil, they are put in jails or in some cases put to sleep (in your country).

I just think that owning an exotic animal or trying to be best friends with it has proven in many cases to end up being fatal..especially with Bears!!

[VictorCharlie]

I wouldn't want to own a tiger etc but I also don't think it is any of my business and frankly dumb people owning dangerous animals culls the herd a bit.

[Beanflicker]

I wouldn't want to own a tiger etc but I also don't think it is any of my business and frankly dumb people owning dangerous animals culls the herd a bit.

I think it would be your business if you lived anywhere near it, because there's always a threat of the animal escaping and fucking shit up.

And when the animal does eventually end up fucking someone up, it's not just the owner that suffers - this magestic animal that belongs in a fucking jungle anyway gets killed.