Tyson Fury vs. Dereck Chisora II: who wins?

[ross]

Maybe that shot he took off Haye it the Vitali press conference has affected his resiliance. It certainly wouldnt have helped it.

I dont want to start a conspiracy here but maybe it was the legal hammering he took in the ring from Haye?

You do realise their scuffle was before that?

Chisora took a full blooded bear knuckled right hand off Haye and didn't get knocked out but it may well have affected his long term ability to take a shot. It still wasn't just a single shot that Haye stopped him with but now Chisoras getting hurt left right and centre by journeymen.

I'm not so sure, you can punch a lot harder with gloves on than you do bare knuckle (unless you want your hands to shatter, I thought you said you boxed?! ). Haye's hand was fine afterwards, I'd be surprised if Chisora hadn't been hit harder dozens of times in sparring that year alone.
When you hear about people getting punched outside a pub and then slipping into a coma, it's usually because they were drunk... They topple over because their balance is gone and smack the back of their head on concrete.

I know you'd love us to think that Haye had to soften Chisora up at the press conference to be able to do what Fury failed to do but even for you, that's reaching

Your talking shit just to argue. Why do you think boxers have gloves on in the first place!

Obviously a bare knuckle punch is going to have more impact, do more damage than a gloved punch!!!

[AdamGB]

Maybe that shot he took off Haye it the Vitali press conference has affected his resiliance. It certainly wouldnt have helped it.

I dont want to start a conspiracy here but maybe it was the legal hammering he took in the ring from Haye?

You do realise their scuffle was before that?

Chisora took a full blooded bear knuckled right hand off Haye and didn't get knocked out but it may well have affected his long term ability to take a shot. It still wasn't just a single shot that Haye stopped him with but now Chisoras getting hurt left right and centre by journeymen.

I'm not so sure, you can punch a lot harder with gloves on than you do bare knuckle (unless you want your hands to shatter, I thought you said you boxed?! ). Haye's hand was fine afterwards, I'd be surprised if Chisora hadn't been hit harder dozens of times in sparring that year alone.
When you hear about people getting punched outside a pub and then slipping into a coma, it's usually because they were drunk... They topple over because their balance is gone and smack the back of their head on concrete.

I know you'd love us to think that Haye had to soften Chisora up at the press conference to be able to do what Fury failed to do but even for you, that's reaching

Your talking shit just to argue. Why do you think boxers have gloves on in the first place!

Obviously a bare knuckle punch is going to have more impact, do more damage than a gloved punch!!!

Gloves are to protect hands Ross. Watch UFC, they use Gloves with hardly any padding and they can't dish out what a boxer can with their fists.

[ross]

Maybe that shot he took off Haye it the Vitali press conference has affected his resiliance. It certainly wouldnt have helped it.

I dont want to start a conspiracy here but maybe it was the legal hammering he took in the ring from Haye?

You do realise their scuffle was before that?

Chisora took a full blooded bear knuckled right hand off Haye and didn't get knocked out but it may well have affected his long term ability to take a shot. It still wasn't just a single shot that Haye stopped him with but now Chisoras getting hurt left right and centre by journeymen.

I'm not so sure, you can punch a lot harder with gloves on than you do bare knuckle (unless you want your hands to shatter, I thought you said you boxed?! ). Haye's hand was fine afterwards, I'd be surprised if Chisora hadn't been hit harder dozens of times in sparring that year alone.
When you hear about people getting punched outside a pub and then slipping into a coma, it's usually because they were drunk... They topple over because their balance is gone and smack the back of their head on concrete.

I know you'd love us to think that Haye had to soften Chisora up at the press conference to be able to do what Fury failed to do but even for you, that's reaching

Your talking shit just to argue. Why do you think boxers have gloves on in the first place!

Obviously a bare knuckle punch is going to have more impact, do more damage than a gloved punch!!!

Gloves are to protect hands Ross. Watch UFC, they use Gloves with hardly any padding and they can't dish out what a boxer can with their fists.

You are looking like a bunch of silly little morons.

Would you rather take a clean right hand off Haye with a gloved fist or bare knuckle?

Argument over

[Silkeyjoe]

Maybe that shot he took off Haye it the Vitali press conference has affected his resiliance. It certainly wouldnt have helped it.

I dont want to start a conspiracy here but maybe it was the legal hammering he took in the ring from Haye?

You do realise their scuffle was before that?

Chisora took a full blooded bear knuckled right hand off Haye and didn't get knocked out but it may well have affected his long term ability to take a shot. It still wasn't just a single shot that Haye stopped him with but now Chisoras getting hurt left right and centre by journeymen.

I'm not so sure, you can punch a lot harder with gloves on than you do bare knuckle (unless you want your hands to shatter, I thought you said you boxed?! ). Haye's hand was fine afterwards, I'd be surprised if Chisora hadn't been hit harder dozens of times in sparring that year alone.
When you hear about people getting punched outside a pub and then slipping into a coma, it's usually because they were drunk... They topple over because their balance is gone and smack the back of their head on concrete.

I know you'd love us to think that Haye had to soften Chisora up at the press conference to be able to do what Fury failed to do but even for you, that's reaching

Your talking shit just to argue. Why do you think boxers have gloves on in the first place!

Obviously a bare knuckle punch is going to have more impact, do more damage than a gloved punch!!!

Gloves are to protect hands Ross. Watch UFC, they use Gloves with hardly any padding and they can't dish out what a boxer can with their fists.

You are looking like a bunch of silly little morons.

Would you rather take a clean right hand off Haye with a gloved fist or bare knuckle?

Argument over

How do I look silly? That's is why gloves were introduced

[ross]

Maybe that shot he took off Haye it the Vitali press conference has affected his resiliance. It certainly wouldnt have helped it.

I dont want to start a conspiracy here but maybe it was the legal hammering he took in the ring from Haye?

You do realise their scuffle was before that?

Chisora took a full blooded bear knuckled right hand off Haye and didn't get knocked out but it may well have affected his long term ability to take a shot. It still wasn't just a single shot that Haye stopped him with but now Chisoras getting hurt left right and centre by journeymen.

I'm not so sure, you can punch a lot harder with gloves on than you do bare knuckle (unless you want your hands to shatter, I thought you said you boxed?! ). Haye's hand was fine afterwards, I'd be surprised if Chisora hadn't been hit harder dozens of times in sparring that year alone.
When you hear about people getting punched outside a pub and then slipping into a coma, it's usually because they were drunk... They topple over because their balance is gone and smack the back of their head on concrete.

I know you'd love us to think that Haye had to soften Chisora up at the press conference to be able to do what Fury failed to do but even for you, that's reaching

Your talking shit just to argue. Why do you think boxers have gloves on in the first place!

Obviously a bare knuckle punch is going to have more impact, do more damage than a gloved punch!!!

Gloves are to protect hands Ross. Watch UFC, they use Gloves with hardly any padding and they can't dish out what a boxer can with their fists.

You are looking like a bunch of silly little morons.

Would you rather take a clean right hand off Haye with a gloved fist or bare knuckle?

Argument over

How do I look silly? That's is why gloves were introduced

The initial point was blatantly obvious that a bare knuckled punch is going to do far more damage than a gloved punch and because that cant really be argued its now been turned in to gloves are to protect hands. Ayway, no... Hand wraps are to protect hands, gloves are to protect the opponent.