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    Default Re: James DeGay is shit.

    Quote Originally Posted by ykdadamaja View Post

    Well, who did Groves fight before he fought Froch- "DeGale".... and before that no one in the world knew who Groves was. At least we knew who DeGale was... lololol....

    DeGale earns this title shot more than Groves did his against Froch if you ask me.
    Degale hasn't beaten anyone better than Glen Johnson. Groves also did a better job against Paul Smith. The manner of Groves victories against a similar level of opposition are what elevated his status.

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    Default Re: James DeGay is shit.

    Quote Originally Posted by Vendettos View Post
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    Yea I think its harsh too. He was unlucky not to get the win over Groves. If he had hed be further along. Unfortunately defeats set you back in boxing. Bika is a winnable fight for him and once he has a title bigger fights will come. He looked very slick in parts of that fight and in fairness his opponent was tougher then most thought he would be.

    In all fairness there is still not a lot between Groves and Degale
    Groves is miles ahead of Degale. When they fought, I actually had Degale sneaking it, but since then Groves has improved dramatically with every fight, while Degale has stood still if not gone backwards. He's talked about bad knees, groin, all sorts of excuses. Until last night , I've never seen Degale fight more than a minute a round. Last night was a bit better, but he got tagged a helluva lot against a guy who although decent and game, was not World level. If they rematched tomorrow , Groves would probably stop Degale in 6-8 rounds.
    I had Groves up by 3 I think.

    Groves is massively the better fighter now.

    DeGale has bare done anything to earn a title shot. I haven't even heard of a couple of his last opponents.
    Well, who did Groves fight before he fought Froch- "DeGale".... and before that no one in the world knew who Groves was. At least we knew who DeGale was... lololol....

    DeGale earns this title shot more than Groves did his against Froch if you ask me.
    I think most people on here knew who they both were, along time before their fight.

    Are you a new fan of boxing? You seem to know very little.
    Yes he knows more about other things than boxing it would seem.

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    Default Re: James DeGay is shit.

    Quote Originally Posted by bzkfn View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ykdadamaja View Post

    Well, who did Groves fight before he fought Froch- "DeGale".... and before that no one in the world knew who Groves was. At least we knew who DeGale was... lololol....

    DeGale earns this title shot more than Groves did his against Froch if you ask me.
    Degale hasn't beaten anyone better than Glen Johnson. Groves also did a better job against Paul Smith. The manner of Groves victories against a similar level of opposition are what elevated his status.
    Utter BS... Glen Johnson is a shell of a man. A shell of a man. Before their fight, no one in HELL knew who Groves was- and still no one knew who he really was UNTIL he started to call out Froch. He made a name for himself, no doubt- but DeGale's last three oppoonets could have beaten Johnson too. And, styles make fights- Groves did in Smith quicker. No biggie.
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    Default Re: James DeGay is shit.

    Every pro fight Groves has had has been televised in the UK. As amazing as it may seem, you don't need American approval to become a successful boxer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ykdadamaja View Post

    Utter BS... Glen Johnson is a shell of a man. A shell of a man. Before their fight, no one in HELL knew who Groves was- and still no one knew who he really was UNTIL he started to call out Froch. He made a name for himself, no doubt- but DeGale's last three oppoonets could have beaten Johnson too. And, styles make fights- Groves did in Smith quicker. No biggie.
    Johnson was a year removed from fighting Froch to a close decision and fighting Lucian Bute and yet he was just Groves 16th pro fight. Also to say nobody knew who Groves was is utter BS. Over here in the UK Groves fought on numerous David Haye undercards meaning every fight he has was televised. Also, as soon as Degale left Warren and signed for Hennessy he started to fight in small hall shows on Channel 5 dragging in average viewing figures and a poor gate as oppose to Groves who was fighting on Sky in front of larger audiences and dragging in higher viewing figures. As a result, many people in this country knew who George Groves was.

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    Default Re: James DeGay is shit.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    Every pro fight Groves has had has been televised in the UK. As amazing as it may seem, you don't need American approval to become a successful boxer.
    DeGale hasn't been televised on American TV, if I can remember?
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    Default Re: James DeGay is shit.

    We have many mediocre fighters like Degale in america.. like Badou Jack, yusaf mack etc...

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    I thought DeGale looked alright to be honest. The guy he was in with was a bit of an odd ball and hard as nails to boot. DeGale looked strong later on in the fight which was good to see. If he's been as injury prone as he says over the past few years and he's now fit you cant blame him for having a bit of fun in there and taking risks. Bika will be a big ask for him but he's not going to be as sloppy as that when it really counts.

    I actually warmed to him a bit. He spoke well and sounded quite humble pre fight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vendettos View Post
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    Yea I think its harsh too. He was unlucky not to get the win over Groves. If he had hed be further along. Unfortunately defeats set you back in boxing. Bika is a winnable fight for him and once he has a title bigger fights will come. He looked very slick in parts of that fight and in fairness his opponent was tougher then most thought he would be.

    In all fairness there is still not a lot between Groves and Degale
    Groves is miles ahead of Degale. When they fought, I actually had Degale sneaking it, but since then Groves has improved dramatically with every fight, while Degale has stood still if not gone backwards. He's talked about bad knees, groin, all sorts of excuses. Until last night , I've never seen Degale fight more than a minute a round. Last night was a bit better, but he got tagged a helluva lot against a guy who although decent and game, was not World level. If they rematched tomorrow , Groves would probably stop Degale in 6-8 rounds.
    I had Groves up by 3 I think.

    Groves is massively the better fighter now.

    DeGale has bare done anything to earn a title shot. I haven't even heard of a couple of his last opponents.
    It's not really a stacked division. Who does he have to beat to deserve a title shot? Periban wouldn't fight him and Jack lost.

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    Default Re: James DeGay is shit.

    Quote Originally Posted by Primo Carnera View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Silkeyjoe View Post
    Yea I think its harsh too. He was unlucky not to get the win over Groves. If he had hed be further along. Unfortunately defeats set you back in boxing. Bika is a winnable fight for him and once he has a title bigger fights will come. He looked very slick in parts of that fight and in fairness his opponent was tougher then most thought he would be.

    In all fairness there is still not a lot between Groves and Degale
    Groves is miles ahead of Degale. When they fought, I actually had Degale sneaking it, but since then Groves has improved dramatically with every fight, while Degale has stood still if not gone backwards. He's talked about bad knees, groin, all sorts of excuses. Until last night , I've never seen Degale fight more than a minute a round. Last night was a bit better, but he got tagged a helluva lot against a guy who although decent and game, was not World level. If they rematched tomorrow , Groves would probably stop Degale in 6-8 rounds.
    I agree with most of what you said. Groves has improved a lot, but the main thinking behind that is his performance against Froch. While he looked beating Smith, Sierra, Johnson, Barakat and Alcoba I dont think any of them would cause degale any trouble either.

    DeGale has been injured but he has also had more fights since the loss to Groves then Groves has and while he hasnt been fighting great fighters the likes of Wilczewski and Davis are just as good as the guys Groves has been fighting (bar Froch). If they were fighting soon Groves would rightly be favorite but there is not a huge difference in them. I think Id back Degale at 2/1 or bigger which would mean hed have a good chance.

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    Default Re: James DeGay is shit.

    Quote Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamita View Post
    We have many mediocre fighters like Degale in america.. like Badou Jack, yusaf mack etc...
    The closest yank to Degales level is Ward. Ward class A, DeGale class B and the next USA super middle is probably D or E

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