Russia vs Ukraine..

[Gandalf]

Basically the Americans decided to instigate a coup in a democratically elected country and Russia has stepped in to defend its ports and bases and considering Crimea is basically Russian, have decided to step into that area. Most of the troops were seemingly already in the region.

America is getting all huffy and puffy, is threatening sanctions, banning from G8 etc. Yet such hypocrisy! America drones around the world, invades countries way beyond it's own borders in areas nothing to do with it, provokes regime change at will and supports tyranny. Now where were their sanctions as Iraq was completely insane as compared with this where Putin makes sense.

Imagine Russia starting an anti US coup in Canada. Obama is off his head and being a bully.

[El Kabong]

It's raining today....and well I think there's no other rational explanation than to blame America.


miles, I would just like to remind you Communism/Socialism have massacred more people than America could ever even attempt to. Also they did it on purpose....so look in the mirror....and blame your self and those who think like you because YOU GUYS are the problem not us.

The Holodomor (or "Hunger-extermination") in Ukraine plotted by YOUR BOY Josef Stalin killed off an estimated 2.4-7.5 MILLION PEOPLE......that's people who think like YOU miles....people who think in the lefty, liberal, commie way like you thing STARVED PEOPLE TO DEATH.

But you were complaining you ignorant twat

[Gandalf]

Stop trying to label me as a communist. I am not a communist, I am a political atheist with views that are on both sides of the fence according to MY OWN rationality. Sometimes left, sometimes a bit too similar to you.

How many dead as caused by yourselves or the Soviets is not the issue here. Ukraine today is the issue and America has provoked Russia and Russia is defending its interests. Wouldn't America do the same in an act of provocation?

You almost sound like you are supporting Obama here and you shouldn't be.

[El Kabong]

I'm sorry all I read was ......


"Don't label me, because I like to complain while not taking sides"



So you're not a commie you're a pussy

[Gandalf]

No, I have strong views, stronger than many and what that means is that some of them are on the left and some on the right. Heck take gun law, that is something I am now on your side over. I'm quite libertarian, but I do have my old fashioned thing for dedristributed taxes and education for all. An equal start for all and if you waste it, then tough cookies. Not being a pussy, just a man with character.

All that simple left and right divide stuff is so phony. One cannot only be that. A true thinker sees different ways to think about different things and some are left and some a right. I can always take sides. I am programmed that way.

[El Kabong]

No, I have strong views, stronger than many and what that means is that some of them are on the left and some on the right. Heck take gun law, that is something I am now on your side over. I'm quite libertarian, but I do have my old fashioned thing for dedristributed taxes and education for all. An equal start for all and if you waste it, then tough cookies. Not being a pussy, just a man with character.

All that simple left and right divide stuff is so phony. One cannot only be that. A true thinker sees different ways to think about different things and some are left and some a right. I can always take sides. I am programmed that way.

#1 You are NOT a Libertarian
#2 Libertarians are not against education for all and equal starts for all...but you've worded your response in a manner that assumes they are therefore I won't even pretend to think you have grasped the core Libertarian principles.
#3 The left-right divide is not phony, it is quite real and if you're not on "The Right Side" you're on the wrong side, and my friend, YOU are on the wrong side.

[Gandalf]

Whether I am on your side is not the point, or any side for that matter. I am my own mix of what I think is appropriate.

1. Libertarian for me means the right to shoot a gun, to own my land and not be bothered by anyone, to have freedom meaning I do what I want as long as I hurt nobody else.

2. The left right divide is very phony. Most are in it together. Cronyists. I choose to take only what is good from what I hear and that alone. That is libertarian. It's typically the path to be opressed less.

3.An equal start for all should be under any system which wants the best to rise up from fair beginnings.

[mrbig1]

No, I have strong views, stronger than many and what that means is that some of them are on the left and some on the right. Heck take gun law, that is something I am now on your side over. I'm quite libertarian, but I do have my old fashioned thing for dedristributed taxes and education for all. An equal start for all and if you waste it, then tough cookies. Not being a pussy, just a man with character.

All that simple left and right divide stuff is so phony. One cannot only be that. A true thinker sees different ways to think about different things and some are left and some a right. I can always take sides. I am programmed that way.

#1 You are NOT a Libertarian
#2 Libertarians are not against education for all and equal starts for all...but you've worded your response in a manner that assumes they are therefore I won't even pretend to think you have grasped the core Libertarian principles.
#3 The left-right divide is not phony, it is quite real and if you're not on "The Right Side" you're on the wrong side, and my friend, YOU are on the wrong side.

How can there be two sides when they're getting paid by the same people. Obama is Bush part 2.