Russia vs Ukraine..

[El Kabong]

Unlike the idiots in the west the Chinese are long term planners.

China Entering Demographic Danger Zone, BOJ Official Says - Bloomberg

....whatever you say "Mr. Bubble"

[Andre]

Unlike the idiots in the west the Chinese are long term planners.

China Entering Demographic Danger Zone, BOJ Official Says - Bloomberg

....whatever you say "Mr. Bubble"

The aging population problem, happens to us all.
They sure are little fuckers breeders
'Ahh our ratest figures prove'.

I think Kirk means they wont waste effort on a reward they'll reap anyway.

I recon China (given the chance) will run the world clean out of some natural resources though they are near sighted in that.

They are consumers first and dont give a rats ass for sustainable natural environments.

Oh hang on, they don't waste anything though;they do utilize rats asses for something...what is it again Oh yeah I remember its, The wanton destruction of everything in the pursuit of more Yen power.
I knew there was something.

[IamInuit]

Putin knows he has the west by the short and curlies. I bet he's actually laughing out loud when he hears these foreign leaders call it an "act of aggression" or "willful occupation" and then he calls them all hypocrites.

When pressed the word isolation becomes the hardest punch they can throw. Nothing like isolation as a weapon for a Stalinist lol.

[El Kabong]

Putin knows he has the west by the short and curlies. I bet he's actually laughing out loud when he hears these foreign leaders call it an "act of aggression" or "willful occupation" and then he calls them all hypocrites.

When pressed the word isolation becomes the hardest punch they can throw. Nothing like isolation as a weapon for a Stalinist lol.

He has the pleasure of ruling over Russia while Obama (solely focused on internal issues because he's a total narcissistic jack off) runs America with John "Hey I was in Vietnam" Kerry as the WEAKEST Secretary of State in United States history as Putin's only threat.

Believe you me this will not always be the case as most people are sick to death of Obama and his bullshit policies and they never did like John Kerry who failed numerous times to become President.


THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU DON'T PROPERLY VET A CANDIDATE...but I guess it's "racist" to point that out

[IamInuit]

Putin knows he has the west by the short and curlies. I bet he's actually laughing out loud when he hears these foreign leaders call it an "act of aggression" or "willful occupation" and then he calls them all hypocrites.

When pressed the word isolation becomes the hardest punch they can throw. Nothing like isolation as a weapon for a Stalinist lol.

He has the pleasure of ruling over Russia while Obama (solely focused on internal issues because he's a total narcissistic jack off) runs America with John "Hey I was in Vietnam" Kerry as the WEAKEST Secretary of State in United States history as Putin's only threat.

Believe you me this will not always be the case as most people are sick to death of Obama and his bullshit policies and they never did like John Kerry who failed numerous times to become President.


THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU DON'T PROPERLY VET A CANDIDATE...but I guess it's "racist" to point that out

In this case the leader is irrelevant. Hawk or Dove nobody is going to do dick.

[Kirkland Laing]

Putin knows he has the west by the short and curlies. I bet he's actually laughing out loud when he hears these foreign leaders call it an "act of aggression" or "willful occupation" and then he calls them all hypocrites.

When pressed the word isolation becomes the hardest punch they can throw. Nothing like isolation as a weapon for a Stalinist lol.

He has the pleasure of ruling over Russia while Obama (solely focused on internal issues because he's a total narcissistic jack off) runs America with John "Hey I was in Vietnam" Kerry as the WEAKEST Secretary of State in United States history as Putin's only threat.

Believe you me this will not always be the case as most people are sick to death of Obama and his bullshit policies and they never did like John Kerry who failed numerous times to become President.


THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU DON'T PROPERLY VET A CANDIDATE...but I guess it's "racist" to point that out

What do you think Obama should do?

[El Kabong]

What do you think Obama should do?

Get NATO involved because although the Ukraine is NOT a member of NATO proper they ARE a member of the Euro-Atlantic Partnership Council which is tied to NATO. They don't need to shoot anyone or bomb anyone, just use their presence to halt Russia's movement and protect the citizens of Ukraine.


And hey, here's an idea....don't fucking draw a line in the sand if you never intend to back your words up with action, that would be nice to see for fucking once.

[Kirkland Laing]

What do you think Obama should do?

Get NATO involved because although the Ukraine is NOT a member of NATO proper they ARE a member of the Euro-Atlantic Partnership Council which is tied to NATO. They don't need to shoot anyone or bomb anyone, just use their presence to halt Russia's movement and protect the citizens of Ukraine.


And hey, here's an idea....don't fucking draw a line in the sand if you never intend to back your words up with action, that would be nice to see for fucking once.

NATO don't want to get involved. Neither do America. They're not going to get involved militarily just like they didn't back in 2008 when Russia invaded South Ossetia. The only people advocating any kind of military involvement are a bunch of US politicians who are just taking part in US political theatre and don't really mean it and idiot US TV pundits who thought invading Iraq would be a cakewalk and always want other people to go and fight all over the world any time there's any kind of conflict. So apart from a bunch of bullshitters/proven idiots nobody wants the military to get involved.

Exactly what would you have NATO do anyway?

[El Kabong]

NATO don't want to get involved. Neither do America. They're not going to get involved militarily just like they didn't back in 2008 when Russia invaded South Ossetia. The only people advocating any kind of military involvement are a bunch of US politicians who are just taking part in US political theatre and don't really mean it and idiot US TV pundits who thought invading Iraq would be a cakewalk and always want other people to go and fight all over the world any time there's any kind of conflict. So apart from a bunch of bullshitters/proven idiots nobody wants the military to get involved.

Exactly what would you have NATO do anyway?

Kirkland what part of invading Iraq was difficult? If you're talking about holding the nation that's one thing, but the actual invasion was one of the greatest showings of military might and technology the world has ever seen. The Coalition Forces didn't even lose 200 men taking over an entire country......AN ENTIRE COUNTRY. And it's not like the Iraqis didn't know we were coming either. But hey I'm no fool, I know better than to think you would ever give the United States and their Allies any credit at all because you're a bitter bitter man.

I'm not calling for a war with Russia, I'm calling for NATO to do their job regarding their Partnership for Peace alliance (of which Ukraine is a member). NATO is a dominant enough military force to where they don't need to send 100% of their forces in, just enough to have a presence on the ground ensure peace, supply aide (if needed), make sure citizens rights are upheld, and to keep Russia honest. If by happenstance NATO peacekeepers were to get fired on....THEN there would be an issue, a big one.

You bring up Georgia and South Ossetia seemingly without remembering the United States was in 2 wars at that time....which is no longer the case now.

You say "The Ukraine should break in two".....well Captain Happy that will do just fine to create MORE of a barrier between Europe and Russia and if you think that helps keep things peaceful and helps everyone get along you're dumber than I thought you were and that's saying something.

[smashup]

This was all predicted in Rocky 4.

Is it East versus West or man against man?

[Beanz]

Even Russian born People are moving from the Crimea to Kiev because they fear the Russian troops will remove their freedom and have described Putin and the Russian government as corrupt and run by criminals. Curiously they have insisted that they have never felt threatened in Ukraine and that those believing they are have been manipulated by the propaganda on TV. Still I expect people living in Asia know more about the largest country in Europe than those inside its violated, sovereign borders.

[Kirkland Laing]

Unlike the idiots in the west the Chinese are long term planners.

China Entering Demographic Danger Zone, BOJ Official Says - Bloomberg

....whatever you say "Mr. Bubble"

China have massive economic and demographic problems, water problems, you name it but their economy will still blow past America's in a couple of decades. And then there's India and the SCO. Threats are all economic now, military threats to America don't exist and never will.