9-11...after all this time do you really think it was terrorists?

[smashup]

Okay, that is a fair point. The establishment would love a million of you.

The dead society you live within is the one you represent. The handshake financial sector, corrupted by the police, through to Cameron who was complicit all along, and by the sounds of it, you love it. You sound like a spy, not a real poster. You will warp truth into anti government crap, when you lot destroyed the UK. I was never even there.

The dead society is one with no moral claims. London is bankrupt. I don't feel bad about that, I feel bad about the rest of England which is English. England is a country lost and it is a tragedy.

1) Why have you side stepped my question which was why are you still here after openly telling everyone you would leave once you lost your own thread/vote?

(It was a simple question)


2) What truth do I warp Miles ?


3) im not a spy

4) yet again you've proved beyond doubt what a cunt you are

[Gandalf]

Okay, that is a fair point. The establishment would love a million of you.

The dead society you live within is the one you represent. The handshake financial sector, corrupted by the police, through to Cameron who was complicit all along, and by the sounds of it, you love it. You sound like a spy, not a real poster. You will warp truth into anti government crap, when you lot destroyed the UK. I was never even there.

The dead society is one with no moral claims. London is bankrupt. I don't feel bad about that, I feel bad about the rest of England which is English. England is a country lost and it is a tragedy.

1) Why have you side stepped my question which was why are you still here after openly telling everyone you would leave once you lost your own thread/vote?

(It was a simple question)


2) What truth do I warp Miles ?


3) im not a spy

4) yet again you've proved beyond doubt what a cunt you are

Not really, you never address any of my points either. This is the same as your Mandela thing.

Okay, let's have another vote and if I get blown out then off I go. Last time I voted for myself which was the difference. This time if I lose, then I go.

But no lobbying as I don't do that. These things should be natural.

[Beanz]

Miles Smashup was actually agreeing with you and adding points to your side of the argument. You though being so stuck up and arrogant could not see further than the end of your huge ego and so had to assume that he was in a little box that you had already put him in. You are a horribly ungenerous self important little man who clearly has issues. You want everybody to love you and to be in awe of your witty repartee but the truth is that most people have had pets with more to say. You are not half as clever, funny or likeable as you would like to think. You are coming to conclusions years after the rest of the planet and then claiming that everybody else is stupid.

Why do you need to run a poll ? Can you not live and let live ?

[Beanz]

Okay, that is a fair point. The establishment would love a million of you.

The dead society you live within is the one you represent. The handshake financial sector, corrupted by the police, through to Cameron who was complicit all along, and by the sounds of it, you love it. You sound like a spy, not a real poster. You will warp truth into anti government crap, when you lot destroyed the UK. I was never even there.

The dead society is one with no moral claims. London is bankrupt. I don't feel bad about that, I feel bad about the rest of England which is English. England is a country lost and it is a tragedy.

1) Why have you side stepped my question which was why are you still here after openly telling everyone you would leave once you lost your own thread/vote?

(It was a simple question)


2) What truth do I warp Miles ?


3) im not a spy

4) yet again you've proved beyond doubt what a cunt you are

Not really, you never address any of my points either. This is the same as your Mandela thing.

Okay, let's have another vote and if I get blown out then off I go. Last time I voted for myself which was the difference. This time if I lose, then I go.

But no lobbying as I don't do that. These things should be natural.

Actually you do lobby so you are a liar

[brocktonblockbust]

when people let the TV do the thinking for them........I agree that is bad......BUT when people let their GOVERNMENT do the thinking for them, that is WORSE.

[smashup]

This is interesting

http://neonnettle.com/news/211-ex-cia-pilot-gives-sworn-testimony-that-no-planes-hit-the-twin-towers

[walrus]

I'm on a kindle so I can't get those links to work but if some people think planes did not actually hit the buildings it is pointless to even discuss it with people who hold such beliefs.The US government spent need to commit atrocities against its own in order to usurp more power, they are quite adept at doing that without any acts of terrorism at home. All the need is the NSA.

[Andre]

A former CIA and civilian pilot has sworn an affidavit, stating that no planes flew into the Twin Towers as it would have been physically impossible.

John Lear, the son of Learjet inventor, Bill Lear, has given his expert evidence that it would have been physically impossible for Boeing 767s, like Flights AA11 and UA175 to have hit the Twin Towers on 9/11, particularly when flown by inexperienced pilots:

‘No Boeing 767 airliners hit the Twin Towers as fraudulently alleged by the government, media, NIST and its contractors’, he stated in the affidavit.

‘Such crashes did not occur because they are physically impossible as depicted, for the following reasons: in the case of UAL 175 going into the south tower, a real Boeing 767 would have begun 'telescoping' when the nose hit the 14 inch steel columns which are 39 inches on center.

‘The vertical and horizontal tail would have instantaneously separated from the aircraft, hit the steel box columns and fallen to the ground.

‘The engines when impacting the steel columns would havemaintained their general shape and either fallen to the ground or been recovered in the debris of the collapsed building.

‘No Boeing 767 could attain a speed of 540 mph at 1000 feet above sea level ‘parasite drag doubles with velocity’ and ‘parasite power’ cubes with velocity.

• The fan portion of the engine is not designed to accept the volume of dense air at that altitude and speed.
• The piece of alleged external fuselage containing 3 or 4 window cutouts is inconsistent with an airplane that hit 14 inch steel box columns, placed at over 500 mph. It would have crumpled.
• No significant part of the Boeing 767 or engine could have penetrated the 14 inch steel columns and 37 feet beyond the massive core of the tower without part of it falling to the ground.

‘The debris of the collapse should have contained massive sections of the Boeing 767, including 3 engine cores weighing approximately 9000 pounds apiece which could not have been hidden. Yet there is no evidence of any of these massive structural components from either 767 at the WTC. Such complete disappearance of 767s is impossible.

The affidavit, dated 28th January 2014 is part of a law suit being pursued by Morgan Reynolds in the United States District Court, Southern District, New York.

In March 2007, Reynolds, a former chief economist under the George W Bush administration filed a Request For Correction with the US National Institute of Science and Technology citing his belief that real commercial jets (Boeings) did not hit the WTC towers.

Although the 9/11 Truth movement initially rejected the ‘no-planes’ theory as too outlandish, after scientific and rational analysis, it has become a widely accepted explanation of the evidence collected.





Unlike any other form of statement, an affidavit becomes truth in law, if it is not rebutted. It will now be up to critics of the theory to present their evidence and analysis to rebut the statement point by point. If they do not – or cannot – then the US government will be obliged to admit that the account given by the 9/11 Commission is wrong.

The 65 year old retired airline captain and former CIA pilot – who has over 19,000 hours of flight time -- also drew attention to the inexperience of the pilots who allegedly flew the planes:

‘The alleged 'controlled' descent into New York on a relatively straight course by a novice pilot in unlikely in the extreme because of the difficulty of controlling heading, descent rate and descent speed within the parameters of 'controlled' flight.

‘It takes a highly skilled pilot to interpret the "EFIS" (Electronic Flight Instrument Display) display, with which none of the hijacker pilots would have been familiar or received training on, and use his controls, including the ailerons, rudder, elevators, spoilers and throttles to effect, control and maintain a descent.

Lear has, according to his sworn statement, flown over 100 different types of planes during his 40 years of flying and holds more FAA airman certificates than any other FAA certificated airman. He flew secret missions for the CIA in Southeast Asia, Eastern Europe, the Middle East and Africa between 1967 and 1983 then spent 17 years working for several passenger and cargo airlines as Captain, Check Airman and Instructor.

He is a member of Pilotsfor911truth.org, which has consistently shown that it was impossible for jet airliners to have hit the Twin Towers in the way the 9/11 Commission has suggested.

The Commission did not take evidence from experts or pilots when it conducted its enquiry into the attacks from 2002 to 2004.

[Beanz]

Ockrams Razor.

[Gandalf]

Of course it was. The dead end world that is, is exceptional, the world is over. We are delaying real collapse. Not a thing felt yet, but we will and should. It will be pure suffering and why not, we should suffer.