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    I thought Herrera decidedly won a tight fight. What I mean is I don't see how you could have Garcia winning, but I didn't think Herrera won by more than a score of 8-4 or 7-5 scores. He controlled the tempo of the fight the whole night-- the right generalship goes to Herrera in almost every round. Garcia never got into a groove. I also never thought Garcia hit him cleanly, which is testament to Herrera's defense. Once Garcia's low blows and his left hook were taken away, he didn't have anything else. He never adjusted to Herrera. The bottom line is that this wasn't a robbery, but Garcia got a gift decision.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rantcatrat View Post
    I thought Herrera decidedly won a tight fight. What I mean is I don't see how you could have Garcia winning, but I didn't think Herrera won by more than a score of 8-4 or 7-5 scores. He controlled the tempo of the fight the whole night-- the right generalship goes to Herrera in almost every round. Garcia never got into a groove. I also never thought Garcia hit him cleanly, which is testament to Herrera's defense. Once Garcia's low blows and his left hook were taken away, he didn't have anything else. He never adjusted to Herrera. The bottom line is that this wasn't a robbery, but Garcia got a gift decision.
    I agree with this in most parts except Garcia did hit him cleanly at times and to be fair, there wasn't a great deal of clean punching from either side.
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    I have not seen the fight but from what you lot have scored it then it was close and could have gone either way depending on how you scored the close rounds. Not a robbery but a close fight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    I have not seen the fight but from what you lot have scored it then it was close and could have gone either way depending on how you scored the close rounds. Not a robbery but a close fight.
    Watch the fight. And you'll see it for the robbery it was. Garcia dad himself knew they lost the fight. He wasn't celebrating and talking his usual shit after the fight. He knew that Herrera was robbed

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    I think Herrera was landing a lot more cleanly, he just didn't have the power to make it obvious perhaps. Still, I felt the ring generalship he displayed was what clearly made it such a bad decision, here was the light punching slickster who was coming forward confidently in most rounds and pressing the attack, he had Garcia more worried about his power than vice versa in nearly every round. He knew that he wouldn't get a fair shake for his boxing and would need to make the fight, he completely did that, and still didn't get credit for it Garcias body language was that of a guy who was totally lost for most of the fight.

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    It wasn't Herrera's power that was bothering him, it was the fact that if Danny moved in on Herrera, he got shut down.. If Danny moved away, he allowed himself to get walked down. He was very reluctant on using muscle to make space for shots (bar round 10, I think) and relied on distance to the point of distraction.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimanuel Boogustus View Post
    It wasn't Herrera's power that was bothering him, it was the fact that if Danny moved in on Herrera, he got shut down.. If Danny moved away, he allowed himself to get walked down. He was very reluctant on using muscle to make space for shots (bar round 10, I think) and relied on distance to the point of distraction.
    Right, Garcia was more worried about getting hit is what I meant, he was never quite confident of being able to do more damage and it showed. Herrera was not only outboxing him but seemed closer to landing hurtful punches in most every exchange imo, you don't get credit just for having more natural punching power if you can't make it count for anything in the fight.

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