I think my point was in America Haye is not given enough credit. I'm not saying he's the 2nd coming of Joe Louis. Just saying he gets no respect. I point to the chisora fight. Vitali didn't KO him. Fury didn't KO him. Haye kicked his ass. Mainly because of his speed and power. I was pointing to the night Michael Moorer beat Evander that Haye on that night would have beat him worst. That's all I'm saying. The man gets no respect. Getting back to the topic. We can't judge any era based on one or two fighters. I'm saying from top to bottom this era is very weak. Way is that? The gyms in the inter-city are gone. Every city had them. They are tons of gyms but no boxing rings. They take up too much space. It was a way out for many poor kids. Now there's the NBA,MLB,NFL where young kids can make quick money without getting there ass kicked. Plus there's no laws to protect fighters from promoters from stealing there money. Pro sports have unions who protects them. Mike Tyson said Don King would charge him 8,000 dollars for towels. If he did that in other sports he would be in prison. Wlad and Vitali and other fighters came from the USSR that had a outstanding boxing program.