Is this the worst era in HW boxing history?

[mrbig1]

Every shot was on target with power. I don't think Chisora even landed a punch in that round. Keep in mind Chisora has a damn good chin.

[Mr140]

Haye Lost to fucking Thompson when he was cw which kinda sad consider he was 40. Haye best win you could say Holyfeild beat at 48 and most of Holyfields loses are after he was 40.I don't think Haye won a round against Wald and Wald not even close to a Lennox Lewis. Haye best win are pretty much lacking and he lost to the guys who one was a good champ and lost ever round the other a old vet who knocked him out so i don't understand your logic on how great he is and why he is mentioned with Holyfeild.

[Max Power]

Haye Lost to fucking Thompson when he was cw which kinda sad consider he was 40. Haye best win you could say Holyfeild beat at 48 and most of Holyfields loses are after he was 40.I don't think Haye won a round against Wald and Wald not even close to a Lennox Lewis. Haye best win are pretty much lacking and he lost to the guys who one was a good champ and lost ever round the other a old vet who knocked him out so i don't understand your logic on how great he is and why he is mentioned with Holyfeild.

Nice one mate, so now your scratching you bring up Haye's only loss entire career.

Except the correct perspective there should read.. "10 fight GREEN David Haye loses by punchers chance to ageing but EXPERIENCED VETERAN Thompson, never to be defeated or seriously challeneged again until Wladimir Klitschko.

Who is to say Haye's opponents are shit. What makes big Audley Harrison a shitter opponent than say Vaugn Bean who push Holyfield? Audley isn't even that bad and Haye murdered him.

Lewis and Wlad are imo also fairly comparable. A fool would disagree there!

[ruthless rocco]

Haye Lost to fucking Thompson when he was cw which kinda sad consider he was 40. Haye best win you could say Holyfeild beat at 48 and most of Holyfields loses are after he was 40.I don't think Haye won a round against Wald and Wald not even close to a Lennox Lewis. Haye best win are pretty much lacking and he lost to the guys who one was a good champ and lost ever round the other a old vet who knocked him out so i don't understand your logic on how great he is and why he is mentioned with Holyfeild.

Nice one mate, so now your scratching you bring up Haye's only loss entire career.

Except the correct perspective there should read.. "10 fight GREEN David Haye loses by punchers chance to ageing but EXPERIENCED VETERAN Thompson, never to be defeated or seriously challeneged again until Wladimir Klitschko.

Who is to say Haye's opponents are shit. What makes big Audley Harrison a shitter opponent than say Vaugn Bean who push Holyfield? Audley isn't even that bad and Haye murdered him.

Lewis and Wlad are imo also fairly comparable. A fool would disagree there!

@maxpower -- You are so stupid and so wrong!

You couldn't even figure out how to join the prediction contest.

[Max Power]

Haye Lost to fucking Thompson when he was cw which kinda sad consider he was 40. Haye best win you could say Holyfeild beat at 48 and most of Holyfields loses are after he was 40.I don't think Haye won a round against Wald and Wald not even close to a Lennox Lewis. Haye best win are pretty much lacking and he lost to the guys who one was a good champ and lost ever round the other a old vet who knocked him out so i don't understand your logic on how great he is and why he is mentioned with Holyfeild.

Nice one mate, so now your scratching you bring up Haye's only loss entire career.

Except the correct perspective there should read.. "10 fight GREEN David Haye loses by punchers chance to ageing but EXPERIENCED VETERAN Thompson, never to be defeated or seriously challeneged again until Wladimir Klitschko.

Who is to say Haye's opponents are shit. What makes big Audley Harrison a shitter opponent than say Vaugn Bean who push Holyfield? Audley isn't even that bad and Haye murdered him.

Lewis and Wlad are imo also fairly comparable. A fool would disagree there!

@maxpower -- You are so stupid and so wrong!

You couldn't even figure out how to join the prediction contest.

It might take me longer than some but I do get there lol

[ruthless rocco]

Haye Lost to fucking Thompson when he was cw which kinda sad consider he was 40. Haye best win you could say Holyfeild beat at 48 and most of Holyfields loses are after he was 40.I don't think Haye won a round against Wald and Wald not even close to a Lennox Lewis. Haye best win are pretty much lacking and he lost to the guys who one was a good champ and lost ever round the other a old vet who knocked him out so i don't understand your logic on how great he is and why he is mentioned with Holyfeild.

Nice one mate, so now your scratching you bring up Haye's only loss entire career.

Except the correct perspective there should read.. "10 fight GREEN David Haye loses by punchers chance to ageing but EXPERIENCED VETERAN Thompson, never to be defeated or seriously challeneged again until Wladimir Klitschko.

Who is to say Haye's opponents are shit. What makes big Audley Harrison a shitter opponent than say Vaugn Bean who push Holyfield? Audley isn't even that bad and Haye murdered him.

Lewis and Wlad are imo also fairly comparable. A fool would disagree there!

@maxpower -- You are so stupid and so wrong!

You couldn't even figure out how to join the prediction contest.

It might take me longer than some but I do get there lol

You get where?

[Max Power]

Every shot was on target with power. I don't think Chisora even landed a punch in that round. Keep in mind Chisora has a damn good chin.

All should pay attention to the commentary...

"Blurring speed"

"Tremendous hook"

"Excellent finisher"

"One of the best chins in the business"

!!!

[walrus]

im surprised a number of you say Wlad is one of the greatest Heavyweights of all time. On paper I would say that is true but in style I would disagree. Having said that I will defer to you guys as I haven't really followed his career. I really can't stand watching him fight. I have only watched a couple of his fights so I am not position to say anyone to say those who feel he is top three material is wrong. Still, having a Heavyweight champ many of us can't stand watching speaks volumes to me.

[powerpuncher]

im surprised a number of you say Wlad is one of the greatest Heavyweights of all time. On paper I would say that is true but in style I would disagree. Having said that I will defer to you guys as I haven't really followed his career. I really can't stand watching him fight. I have only watched a couple of his fights so I am not position to say anyone to say those who feel he is top three material is wrong. Still, having a Heavyweight champ many of us can't stand watching speaks volumes to me.

he isnt. some people just get tricked because he started dominating after all of the decent fighters retired.

[Max Power]

@powerpuncher

And that's all there is to it ey, boxing died, all of the decent HW's retired and all of Wlad's opponents are garbage ey? A whole decade of opponents now in a globalised sport?

Not likely bud!

And your summary of my positions whilst containing accuracy leaves many specifics unturned. OF course many so called "experts" are biased or untruthful, that goes for all sports. Hell, trainers and experts are misleading from fight to fight currently let alone when commenting far in the past.

What about fighters like Ruslan Chagaev, Hasim Rahman, Sultan Ibragimov, David Haye, Tony Thompson, Samuel Peter, Alexander Povetkin. They are real push-overs there those opponents!!

If guys like your precious Muhammad Ali had the same run of opponents like that then he'd be in double digit losses in no time!! Fact!

[powerpuncher]

@powerpuncher

And that's all there is to it ey, boxing died, all of the decent HW's retired and all of Wlad's opponents are garbage ey? A whole decade of opponents now in a globalised sport?

Not likely bud!

And your summary of my positions whilst containing accuracy leaves many specifics unturned. OF course many so called "experts" are biased or untruthful, that goes for all sports. Hell, trainers and experts are misleading from fight to fight currently let alone when commenting far in the past.

What about fighters like Ruslan Chagaev, Hasim Rahman, Sultan Ibragimov, David Haye, Tony Thompson, Samuel Peter, Alexander Povetkin. They are real push-overs there those opponents!!

If guys like your precious Muhammad Ali had the same run of opponents like that then he'd be in double digit losses in no time!! Fact!

like i always say, the klits didnt start dominating until after lewis retired along with the other HWs that lewis was fighting during his career. the klits did fight a few of those guys those WAY after their primes which doesnt really mean much. lets put it this way, arreola, who is a top HW now, is in no way better than ruiz, byrd, rahman (prime), tua, holyfield (even older holyfield), briggs, golota, mccall, and many others who all fought at the same time. and that group of HWs really isnt even that great. they are just alright. same as fighters like chagaev and ibramigov who you think are actually good. or even povetkin. povetkin is terrible. he is super slow and doesnt have much of a punch or hardly any skills and yet, wlad had to hold and push him the whole fight.

and you cant say fact about ali having double digit losses if he fought now because its an opinion. and again, like i always tell you, pretty much any boxer, trainer, expert, etc would 100% disagree with you but you would just say that it is bias which you think makes you win the argument.

[Max Power]

@powerpuncher

And that's all there is to it ey, boxing died, all of the decent HW's retired and all of Wlad's opponents are garbage ey? A whole decade of opponents now in a globalised sport?

Not likely bud!

And your summary of my positions whilst containing accuracy leaves many specifics unturned. OF course many so called "experts" are biased or untruthful, that goes for all sports. Hell, trainers and experts are misleading from fight to fight currently let alone when commenting far in the past.

What about fighters like Ruslan Chagaev, Hasim Rahman, Sultan Ibragimov, David Haye, Tony Thompson, Samuel Peter, Alexander Povetkin. They are real push-overs there those opponents!!

If guys like your precious Muhammad Ali had the same run of opponents like that then he'd be in double digit losses in no time!! Fact!

like i always say, the klits didnt start dominating until after lewis retired along with the other HWs that lewis was fighting during his career. the klits did fight a few of those guys those WAY after their primes which doesnt really mean much. lets put it this way, arreola, who is a top HW now, is in no way better than ruiz, byrd, rahman (prime), tua, holyfield (even older holyfield), briggs, golota, mccall, and many others who all fought at the same time. and that group of HWs really isnt even that great. they are just alright. same as fighters like chagaev and ibramigov who you think are actually good. or even povetkin. povetkin is terrible. he is super slow and doesnt have much of a punch or hardly any skills and yet, wlad had to hold and push him the whole fight.

and you cant say fact about ali having double digit losses if he fought now because its an opinion. and again, like i always tell you, pretty much any boxer, trainer, expert, etc would 100% disagree with you but you would just say that it is bias which you think makes you win the argument.

I am a big fan of those 90's boxers man but the prime version of Wladimir is a force to be reckoned with against any of them and Chris Arreola is NO WORSE than most all of those fighters you mentioned either, same for Ibragimov and the rest you mentioned.

I think Alexander Povetkin is much better than your describing him. The fact he didn't have the biggest punch means he must have had good skills to be where he is. He still has good power, he had good skills and other etc, he is a good all-round boxer, great ant not 1 thing but good at lots. And he has good chin!

But you can go with what you think, I don't care.

On the Muhammad Ali thing I think there's a surprising and ever growing number that see it the other way round mate!! Show me a Russian expert who thinks Muhammad Ali could beat Sultan Ibragimov, just one??