Can you imagine what Riddick Bowe would do to Joe Louis?

[Max Power]

It drives me nuts. If I go and say "Floyd Mayweather has gone 18 years pro without a loss, and 16 years of that career was on the world stage fighting only champs and top 10 contenders", I'd get about 50 people going through his opponent list with a fine-toothed comb, "oh this guy sucks, that guy was too small, that guy was washed up, that guy was overrated, that guy was fighting at the wrong weight, ect". According to a lot of guys on here, Floyd never fought a real fight in his life. You talk to these people, the numbers don't matter at all, it's the quality. Fair enough.

Then those same people turn around and talk about how Joe Louis held the belt for 12 years, or Willie Pep has over 200 wins, ect. Where the fuck did the concern about quality over quantity go when now suddenly we're talking about old timers? These guys fought tons of bums. Joe Louis fought guys who had no business being in the ring with him for a lot of those years. Fat guys, frail guys, guys who had to be pushed into the ring by their corners because they were so scared.

Joe was the king for his time, but don't talk to me like he's going to whip a modern, 240lb monster with the same skills that he had. It's just crazy talk.

You have just encapsulated one of my most held principles. The same boxing fans who pump up past greats and dismiss the achievements of modern boxers would be completely disgusted if the modern fighter actually fought the same class of opponents that the old timer fought!!

[FinitoElDinamita]

wow.. lol looks like Max Power and Beans just killed this thread, absolutely destroyed it..

Anybody who tries to argue against that are just reaching..

This debate is over as far as im concerened..

Louis is going to beat Bowe huh? Lmfao ok..

[Master]

wow.. lol looks like Max Power and Beans just killed this thread, absolutely destroyed it..

Anybody who tries to argue against that are just reaching..

This debate is over as far as im concerened..

Louis is going to beat Bowe huh? Lmfao ok..

Yes that Bowe would annihilate Wlad as well.

[Max Power]

wow.. lol looks like Max Power and Beans just killed this thread, absolutely destroyed it..

Anybody who tries to argue against that are just reaching..

This debate is over as far as im concerened..

Louis is going to beat Bowe huh? Lmfao ok..

Yes that Bowe would annihilate Wlad as well.

I could swallow that. Bowe is long enough, strong enough and was good enough for to be worthy of that challenge.

Joe Louis was clearly not. And it isn't his fault he was around nearly a hundred years ago!!

[Master]

wow.. lol looks like Max Power and Beans just killed this thread, absolutely destroyed it..

Anybody who tries to argue against that are just reaching..

This debate is over as far as im concerened..

Louis is going to beat Bowe huh? Lmfao ok..

Yes that Bowe would annihilate Wlad as well.

I could swallow that. Bowe is long enough, strong enough and was good enough for to be worthy of that challenge.

Joe Louis was clearly not. And it isn't his fault he was around nearly a hundred years ago!!

If Joe Louis was born at the same time as Bowe he would have been bigger and stronger than he originally was but he may not have had the hunger and desire with all the Mcdonalds that are around today. He probably would have been an accountant sitting behind a desk. Why get punched in the head for a living?

[FinitoElDinamita]

Louis couldnt beat an 03 James Toney...

This aint the 30s no more.. time to wake up and live in the real time.

[Max Power]

LOL Finito...

Look Master that is the endgame comment of all the OTBN (Old Time Nut Bag) community. "If he lived today he'd be this or that". That's not what this is about. If he had modern training and diet and a totally different life, he wouldn't even BE Joe Louis anymore would he!! And I'm glad you included the motivation aspect as well, not because I believe it's true of modern fighters, I don't, but because you identified that the bad aspects of a modern fighter would be bestowed on him as well as the good which most OTNB focus o solely.

I'm only concerned about the Joe Louis who actually WAS vs the Riddick Bowe who actually WAS.

[Master]

LOL Finito...

Look Master that is the endgame comment of all the OTBN (Old Time Nut Bag) community. "If he lived today he'd be this or that". That's not what this is about. If he had modern training and diet and a totally different life, he wouldn't even BE Joe Louis anymore would he!! And I'm glad you included the motivation aspect as well, not because I believe it's true of modern fighters, I don't, but because you identified that the bad aspects of a modern fighter would be bestowed on him as well as the good which most OTNB focus o solely.

I'm only concerned about the Joe Louis who actually WAS vs the Riddick Bowe who actually WAS.

Throw that Bowe in 1930's and 40's Bowe would have deserted the army and got shot.

[Beanz]

LOL Finito...

Look Master that is the endgame comment of all the OTBN (Old Time Nut Bag) community. "If he lived today he'd be this or that". That's not what this is about. If he had modern training and diet and a totally different life, he wouldn't even BE Joe Louis anymore would he!! And I'm glad you included the motivation aspect as well, not because I believe it's true of modern fighters, I don't, but because you identified that the bad aspects of a modern fighter would be bestowed on him as well as the good which most OTNB focus o solely.

I'm only concerned about the Joe Louis who actually WAS vs the Riddick Bowe who actually WAS.

We gathered that, you have no interest in debate and wish to stand in a closed circle looking only in one direction.