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    Default Re: Andre Ward

    Quote Originally Posted by bradlee180 View Post
    Hey, Boxing's entertainment, people pay to be entertained.
    Ward ought to stop putting on boring @$$ fights. For $#!t's sake, even his personalty is boring.

    Muhammad Ali was the master of self-promotion because he put himself out there to the public constantly. For almost 4 years, he didn't fight at all but still maintained a national and international presence, by the $#!t, because he constantly interacted with the public. Zilch self-promotion by Ward.

    Kee-rist, Floyd's fights are craptastic borefests too, but at least his personality isn't boring, and he keeps his name in the press, even if it's cheap heat by pulling publicity stunts every time Pacquiao fights or by getting arrested, Floyd still keeps his name relevant.
    Floyd tries to compensate for boring fights with personality and publicity stunts.
    None of that from Ward.

    To the mainstream public, Ward is invisible.
    He shows up, he boxes a craptastic bore-fest, then goes home... back to being anonymous with the public. Most Boxing fans don't even like watching him, PPVs are the indicator.

    Instead of focusing on a safety-first, risk-averse style, he ought to be more exciting in the ring, and also study the outside-the-ring antics by the Great draws, learn some promo tips from Mike Tyson, Muhammad Ali, Tex Cobb, Mayweather, Ricardo Mayorga.




    ....but he won't!

    The fact that it's no longer enough being a great boxer, and guys now have to fight with stupid, risk taking styles and also adopt a cheesy pro-wrestling persona is a sign that boxing is in a downward spiral into obscurity.

    What that attitude says is "I could give a fuck about the sport of boxing, but I like seeing guys get fucked up and acting a fool on the mic, so if that happens I might tune in."

    That's why boxing is going to go away.

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    Default Re: Andre Ward

    Quote Originally Posted by Beanflicker View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by bradlee180 View Post
    Hey, Boxing's entertainment, people pay to be entertained.
    Ward ought to stop putting on boring @$$ fights. For $#!t's sake, even his personalty is boring.

    Muhammad Ali was the master of self-promotion because he put himself out there to the public constantly. For almost 4 years, he didn't fight at all but still maintained a national and international presence, by the $#!t, because he constantly interacted with the public. Zilch self-promotion by Ward.

    Kee-rist, Floyd's fights are craptastic borefests too, but at least his personality isn't boring, and he keeps his name in the press, even if it's cheap heat by pulling publicity stunts every time Pacquiao fights or by getting arrested, Floyd still keeps his name relevant.
    Floyd tries to compensate for boring fights with personality and publicity stunts.
    None of that from Ward.

    To the mainstream public, Ward is invisible.
    He shows up, he boxes a craptastic bore-fest, then goes home... back to being anonymous with the public. Most Boxing fans don't even like watching him, PPVs are the indicator.

    Instead of focusing on a safety-first, risk-averse style, he ought to be more exciting in the ring, and also study the outside-the-ring antics by the Great draws, learn some promo tips from Mike Tyson, Muhammad Ali, Tex Cobb, Mayweather, Ricardo Mayorga.




    ....but he won't!

    The fact that it's no longer enough being a great boxer, and guys now have to fight with stupid, risk taking styles and also adopt a cheesy pro-wrestling persona is a sign that boxing is in a downward spiral into obscurity.

    What that attitude says is "I could give a fuck about the sport of boxing, but I like seeing guys get fucked up and acting a fool on the mic, so if that happens I might tune in."

    That's why boxing is going to go away.
    I'm starting to believe that boxing is only as popular as well as it's promotion can make it .

    Right through history, from bare knuckle days, promoters worked their magic to cultivate and captivate an audience.

    I think that without listening to the groans for uniform regulation and standardisation in boxing, you'll see it's still pretty much just an event. This guy v that guy. A ticket seller.

    I appreciate Andre Ward as a fighter but will admit that he his bad for boxing in it's current form/ state. There are plenty of fighters who put bums on seats and those are the guys promoters should push to the top of they want boxing to thrive.

    That's not to say I agree with myself but just starting a bit of a hard truth I guess
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    Default Re: Andre Ward

    Quote Originally Posted by Jimanuel Boogustus View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Beanflicker View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by bradlee180 View Post
    Hey, Boxing's entertainment, people pay to be entertained.
    Ward ought to stop putting on boring @$$ fights. For $#!t's sake, even his personalty is boring.

    Muhammad Ali was the master of self-promotion because he put himself out there to the public constantly. For almost 4 years, he didn't fight at all but still maintained a national and international presence, by the $#!t, because he constantly interacted with the public. Zilch self-promotion by Ward.

    Kee-rist, Floyd's fights are craptastic borefests too, but at least his personality isn't boring, and he keeps his name in the press, even if it's cheap heat by pulling publicity stunts every time Pacquiao fights or by getting arrested, Floyd still keeps his name relevant.
    Floyd tries to compensate for boring fights with personality and publicity stunts.
    None of that from Ward.

    To the mainstream public, Ward is invisible.
    He shows up, he boxes a craptastic bore-fest, then goes home... back to being anonymous with the public. Most Boxing fans don't even like watching him, PPVs are the indicator.

    Instead of focusing on a safety-first, risk-averse style, he ought to be more exciting in the ring, and also study the outside-the-ring antics by the Great draws, learn some promo tips from Mike Tyson, Muhammad Ali, Tex Cobb, Mayweather, Ricardo Mayorga.




    ....but he won't!

    The fact that it's no longer enough being a great boxer, and guys now have to fight with stupid, risk taking styles and also adopt a cheesy pro-wrestling persona is a sign that boxing is in a downward spiral into obscurity.

    What that attitude says is "I could give a fuck about the sport of boxing, but I like seeing guys get fucked up and acting a fool on the mic, so if that happens I might tune in."

    That's why boxing is going to go away.
    I'm starting to believe that boxing is only as popular as well as it's promotion can make it .

    Right through history, from bare knuckle days, promoters worked their magic to cultivate and captivate an audience.

    I think that without listening to the groans for uniform regulation and standardisation in boxing, you'll see it's still pretty much just an event. This guy v that guy. A ticket seller.

    I appreciate Andre Ward as a fighter but will admit that he his bad for boxing in it's current form/ state. There are plenty of fighters who put bums on seats and those are the guys promoters should push to the top of they want boxing to thrive.

    That's not to say I agree with myself but just starting a bit of a hard truth I guess
    course promotion is everything, by the promoter and the boxer, always has been

    the fab 4 wouldnt have been the fab 4 on their boxing alone, it was 4 massive charactors with such conflicting styles all around at the same time and at more or less the same weight with huge promotion outfits

    andre ward is lb4lb one of the hardest to beat boxers of all time but nobody wants to watch him in this era as they wouldnt have in any because his style is boring and hes got a less than exciting personality, and he calls himself the son of god

    thats the first thing id change by the way

    and hes probably a very nice fella, someone id probly get on better with than the likes of mayweather and froch and whoever else sells fights with their personality
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    Default Re: Andre Ward

    That's why boxing is going to go away.
    Boxing currently puts on about 20 thousand pro fights per year, God only knows how many amateur matches as it's a worldwide international amateur boxing program.
    79 countries sent Olympic teams to the 2012 Olympics. Womens' boxing is in the Olympics.

    ...and the money where a few top Draws make 46 million for a single fight?!


    Boxing will NEVER go away...

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