Tim always looks ripped but....

[Beanflicker]

That kind of definition says juice and yet his lack of pop says not.

A low body fat % can be obtained without the use of PEDs, and there's no evidence that juice has any real impact on a guy's punching power.

Dude just has an athletic body.

[IamInuit]

That kind of definition says juice and yet his lack of pop says not.

A low body fat % can be obtained without the use of PEDs, and there's no evidence that juice has any real impact on a guy's punching power.

Dude just has an athletic body.

Lol or make a guy run faster or hit a ball better. I think when a guy comes from 122 (well started at 106) pounds and starts destroying the cream of the crop all the way to 147 while his power and speed increases is evidence of something but that's another thread. I should not have even touched on it. That definition is not common and there is little doubt that steroids increase power, strength and speed and are used by a lot of people at the top of this sport for that very reason. Punchers are born but also enhanced.

At any rate, Tim seems really confident to me and I think he gets a clear win this time.

[Beanflicker]

That definition is not common and there is little doubt that steroids increase power, strength and speed and are used by a lot of people at the top of this sport for that very reason.

Punching power is a weird thing, because physical strength doesn't necessarily translate into big KO power. We've seen a ton of big bulky dudes with mediocre to average power and we've seen lanky dudes and softbodies who could stop a train with their power.

Does it help? I'm sure it does, but I'm not convinced it's going to turn a guy into a KO artist. In the UFC I saw Stefan Bonnar fight Anderson Silva, and Stefan was juiced to the gills and failed the drug test, and Anderson stood on the fence, put his hands down and let Bonnar punch him in the chin and laughed at him. And Bonnar knows how to punch, he was a Golden Gloves boxing champ in Chicago, and we're talking small MMA gloves.