BOXNATION - Bradley vs Pacquiao II - Saturday fight night thread.

[beenKOed]

I had it even up to the end of 6, for some bizarre reason after that Bradley wanted to showboat and become he-man? Pacquiao is a shadow of his former self, he won this fight comfortably, but his pop has gone, his movement is more predictable and he fought an opponent with a dubious strategy. Bradley did land some solid shots, but he fought a strange fight. Pacquiao's next knockout might be his own. He has next to no chance of beating Floyd.

I think Bradley was telling the truth about an injury to his leg, this makes Manny's win even less credible. Any thoughts?

[Master]

I had it even up to the end of 6, for some bizarre reason after that Bradley wanted to showboat and become he-man? Pacquiao is a shadow of his former self, he won this fight comfortably, but his pop has gone, his movement is more predictable and he fought an opponent with a dubious strategy. Bradley did land some solid shots, but he fought a strange fight. Pacquiao's next knockout might be his own. He has next to no chance of beating Floyd.

I think Bradley was telling the truth about an injury to his leg, this makes Manny's win even less credible. Any thoughts?

Yes, my thoughts are no it does not make his victory any less credible. Manny had to win even if Bradley broke both his ankles.

[JimmyJones]

I had it even up to the end of 6, for some bizarre reason after that Bradley wanted to showboat and become he-man? Pacquiao is a shadow of his former self, he won this fight comfortably, but his pop has gone, his movement is more predictable and he fought an opponent with a dubious strategy. Bradley did land some solid shots, but he fought a strange fight. Pacquiao's next knockout might be his own. He has next to no chance of beating Floyd.

I think Bradley was telling the truth about an injury to his leg, this makes Manny's win even less credible. Any thoughts?

I agree that Bradley is probably telling the truth. He became very flat footed after the 4th round probably from a combination of the injury and Pacquiao ringing his bell a few times. I think he was clowning to buy time. I respect Bradley for not using the injury as an excuse though (not like he could as that was his excuse after the first fight). Either way I felt they both looked pretty bad this fight. They seemed gassed half way through the fight and there were long stretches were they were both inactive. Pacquiao rarely bounced on his feet as he used to and the work rate/speed just isn't what it used to be (and therefore much of his explosive power). The two versions of these fighters would lose easily to Mayweather. Pacquiao is too susceptible to counter rights (Bradley landed a few) which is Mayweather's bread and butter and Bradley would even lose an inside fight to Mayweather (which is where he had some success against Pacquiao and Alexander for example). I would still like to see both of them fight Mayweather. It's just too bad we likely won't see them at their best.

[Manju]

I think Bradley was telling the truth about an injury to his leg, this makes Manny's win even less credible. Any thoughts?

There was an exchange between Tim and one of his cornermen that lends credence to his injury claim. TB apparently says "but it hurts" in response to a question. His cornerman repeats: "it hurts?! Do you want to fucking quit?"

I'm paraphrasing from memory. I forgot exactly when it occurred, but it was during the middle of the fight, ie as the tide shifted. I was very surprised that the announcers did not mention let alone dwell on this conversation.

He had a 2 stumble-round...i forget which. So maybe that is when the foot injury occurred. Also, same thing happened in first fight. TB was twisting and turning well in order to avoid Pac's power. But one could also say that Pac's power forced TB to twist and turn in a manner that was dangerous.

So Pac actually punched Tim's foot out...in a manner of speaking.

[Julius Rain]

I think Bradley was telling the truth about an injury to his leg, this makes Manny's win even less credible. Any thoughts?

There was an exchange between Tim and one of his cornermen that lends credence to his injury claim. TB apparently says "but it hurts" in response to a question. His cornerman repeats: "it hurts?! Do you want to fucking quit?"

I'm paraphrasing from memory. I forgot exactly when it occurred, but it was during the middle of the fight, ie as the tide shifted. I was very surprised that the announcers did not mention let alone dwell on this conversation.

He had a 2 stumble-round...i forget which. So maybe that is when the foot injury occurred. Also, same thing happened in first fight. TB was twisting and turning well in order to avoid Pac's power. But one could also say that Pac's power forced TB to twist and turn in a manner that was dangerous.

So Pac actually punched Tim's foot out...in a manner of speaking.

I remember that, Tim was telling his Joel his trainer that he is hurting. Joel ask did he want to go home cause they can go fucking home if he wanted. I think thats when Tim was saying he hurt his leg again.

[Pavlik]

funny how in over 30 pro fights he always hurts his lower extremity fighting Manny.

[Master]

funny how in over 30 pro fights he always hurts his lower extremity fighting Manny.

I think he was legitimately hurt and it effected him because the second half of the fight he was desperate and goading Pac Man as he had nothing else to offer.