Prime Margarito in today's WW division

[Primo Carnera]

with or without his concrete gloves?

[Beanflicker]

Provodnikov would knock him out in round 1 or 2

[Max Power]

I reckon he'd do about as good as he did. He's not my favourite fighter but definitely an A level boxer!

[Beanflicker]

I reckon he'd do about as good as he did. He's not my favourite fighter but definitely an A level boxer!

And an A-level cheat hahah

[erics44]

margarito was a quality exciting fighter, value for money everytime

but yeah he probably would have done about as well as he did do, although he was a top level fighter i dont think his style would ever let him be the absolute very top

its a pity that boxing fans are daft enough to slate margarito for the loaded gloves yet to love a long list of fighters like holyfield after being caught using peds

[Primo Carnera]

margarito was a quality exciting fighter, value for money everytime

but yeah he probably would have done about as well as he did do, although he was a top level fighter i dont think his style would ever let him be the absolute very top

its a pity that boxing fans are daft enough to slate margarito for the loaded gloves yet to love a long list of fighters like holyfield after being caught using peds

I don't know if you mean me, but I don't think it's daft to slate Margarito for Blatantly cheating and if you've ever seen that documentary about the Irish American guy who topped himself after getting beat by a fellah with loaded gloves , then you would probably think that Margarito and the rest of his entourage should have never entered a ring after getting caught! The other issue is how many times were his gloves loaded without getting caught?
And by the way, I'm not a lover of anyone who gets caught using PED's. If you Cheat, you pay the price.

[erics44]

margarito was a quality exciting fighter, value for money everytime

but yeah he probably would have done about as well as he did do, although he was a top level fighter i dont think his style would ever let him be the absolute very top

its a pity that boxing fans are daft enough to slate margarito for the loaded gloves yet to love a long list of fighters like holyfield after being caught using peds

I don't know if you mean me, but I don't think it's daft to slate Margarito for Blatantly cheating and if you've ever seen that documentary about the Irish American guy who topped himself after getting beat by a fellah with loaded gloves , then you would probably think that Margarito and the rest of his entourage should have never entered a ring after getting caught! The other issue is how many times were his gloves loaded without getting caught?
And by the way, I'm not a lover of anyone who gets caught using PED's. If you Cheat, you pay the price.

if you are as much a hater of both forms of cheating then I don't mean you no

[FinitoElDinamita]

margarito was a quality exciting fighter, value for money everytime

but yeah he probably would have done about as well as he did do, although he was a top level fighter i dont think his style would ever let him be the absolute very top

its a pity that boxing fans are daft enough to slate margarito for the loaded gloves yet to love a long list of fighters like holyfield after being caught using peds

Great post, Eric.. Yes, many boxing fans tend to be daft and fickle minded. As if one incident defines a fighter's whole career.. smh

It was a pinch of substance, a pinch, not no fuckin concrete.. idiots

And many world class trainers have claimed that if they wanted to, they can easily tamper the wrap without the fighter knowing.. I even made a thread about this not too long ago..

Supposedly the good guys in boxing such as holyfield and mosley are known cheaters too.. is taking steroids less of a crime?

Margarito was a fighter who earned everything the hard way. Nothing was handed to him.

[beenKOed]

margarito was a quality exciting fighter, value for money everytime

but yeah he probably would have done about as well as he did do, although he was a top level fighter i dont think his style would ever let him be the absolute very top

its a pity that boxing fans are daft enough to slate margarito for the loaded gloves yet to love a long list of fighters like holyfield after being caught using peds

Great post, Eric.. Yes, many boxing fans tend to be daft and fickle minded. As if one incident defines a fighter's whole career.. smh

It was a pinch of substance, a pinch, not no fuckin concrete.. idiots

And many world class trainers have claimed that if they wanted to, they can easily tamper the wrap without Alsothe fighter knowing.. I even made a thread about this not too long ago..

Supposedly the good guys in boxing such as holyfield and mosley are known cheaters too.. is taking steroids less of a crime?

Margarito was a fighter who earned everything the hard way. Nothing was handed to him.

Have it anyway you want to--I do--but a pinch is as good a pound in this instance.
I'm not saying Margarito was not a good fighter and he was not avoided for a time. I'm saying he was a cheater just like Mosley and Holyfield, who were good fighters too.

[jehoshaphat]

margarito was a quality exciting fighter, value for money everytime

but yeah he probably would have done about as well as he did do, although he was a top level fighter i dont think his style would ever let him be the absolute very top

its a pity that boxing fans are daft enough to slate margarito for the loaded gloves yet to love a long list of fighters like holyfield after being caught using peds

Great post, Eric.. Yes, many boxing fans tend to be daft and fickle minded. As if one incident defines a fighter's whole career.. smh

It was a pinch of substance, a pinch, not no fuckin concrete.. idiots

And many world class trainers have claimed that if they wanted to, they can easily tamper the wrap without the fighter knowing.. I even made a thread about this not too long ago..

Supposedly the good guys in boxing such as holyfield and mosley are known cheaters too.. is taking steroids less of a crime?

Margarito was a fighter who earned everything the hard way. Nothing was handed to him.

Finito, this has to stop. It was not a pinch. You read an article from a guy who wants to minimize for Margarito. Anybody can write an article. Remember Arum said the Commission is just picking on Margarito because he is Mexican. Is that true too? Here is an interview from the guy who caught him. It was a block and it was in both wraps even in the wraps the commission had signed off on.
NAZEEM RICHARDSON ON HOW MARGARITO "LOADED HIS GLOVES" - RINGTALK

[jehoshaphat]

margarito was a quality exciting fighter, value for money everytime

but yeah he probably would have done about as well as he did do, although he was a top level fighter i dont think his style would ever let him be the absolute very top

its a pity that boxing fans are daft enough to slate margarito for the loaded gloves yet to love a long list of fighters like holyfield after being caught using peds

Eric, I agree that all cheaters should be treated as such. But I also know, just as anyone of average intelligence does, that all cheating is not the same level. That is why it is so hard for people to let go of what Margarito did. Putting brick like substances in block form instantly makes you a KO threat, its the worst possible cheat, and instantly puts the opponent's health, career, and even life in danger.

[zhubin]

How can some of you defend this fucking guy?! Because he was "tough"?! Utter nonsense. The guy cheated and seriously damaged a fighter for a good period (Cotto). His reputation is tarnished...PERIOD. Boxing has had it's fair share of brawler/tough types. No need to glorify a cheat like this in any fucking way.

[erics44]

margarito was a quality exciting fighter, value for money everytime

but yeah he probably would have done about as well as he did do, although he was a top level fighter i dont think his style would ever let him be the absolute very top

its a pity that boxing fans are daft enough to slate margarito for the loaded gloves yet to love a long list of fighters like holyfield after being caught using peds

Eric, I agree that all cheaters should be treated as such. But I also know, just as anyone of average intelligence does, that all cheating is not the same level. That is why it is so hard for people to let go of what Margarito did. Putting brick like substances in block form instantly makes you a KO threat, its the worst possible cheat, and instantly puts the opponent's health, career, and even life in danger.

sorry mate i have had this debate many times
@jehoshaphat, loaded gloves do not necessarily pose more of a threat to the opponent than a juiced fighter

anyone with average intelligence would realise that

[beenKOed]

with or without his concrete gloves?

Substitute enhanced for prime.