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    Default Re: Chris Eubank says fighting prime Roy Jones or James Toney would have been suicide

    From a 2012 interview

    Who was the best fighter you ever fought?
    By far, Michael Watson in our second fight

    Is it true that you wanted nothing to do with the Michael Nunn & James Toney?
    Thats interesting, because I signed to fight both Nunn and James Toney. As part of the contract with Don King for Nunn, where I was the first fighter to get one over on him when me and Nigel drew. And as part of the contract with SKY for James Toney, where I was the first fighter to sign for a TV company direct, but he lost to Roy Jones.

    Did Roy Jones Jr duck you?
    It was never mandated. But I asked Roy Jones about 10 or 12 years ago if he'd said back in 93 that the one fighter he thought would give him problems and had reservations of taking on was me. He told me yes that was true

    Did you take on all the toughest challenges in your career in your opinion?
    “As world champion, what you want to avoid is a southpaw who is 6ft or more and unbeaten or been world champion. Rocchigiani and Calzaghe were fights that no other fighter would take. I took them, even though they weren’t even mandated.

    “Not even Roy Jones, rated as the best pound-for-pound fighter in history by some writers, would take that fight even when it was mandated to.”
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    Personally I have always thought that Chris would have been Roys toughest fight.
    I also believe that Chris would have kicked the living shit out of James legend it his own mind wind bag Toney. Quite possibly the most overrated fighter in history.

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    Default Re: Chris Eubank says fighting prime Roy Jones or James Toney would have been suicide

    Quote Originally Posted by IamInuit View Post
    Quite possibly the most overrated fighter in history.
    How anyone could watch prime James and come to that conclusion is beyond me. One of the most underrated guys ever.

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    Default Re: Chris Eubank says fighting prime Roy Jones or James Toney would have been suicide

    Quote Originally Posted by Beanflicker View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by IamInuit View Post
    Quite possibly the most overrated fighter in history.
    How anyone could watch prime James and come to that conclusion is beyond me. One of the most underrated guys ever.

    I have never seen this prime James Toney. When was that and who was that against? Sorry but a little shoulder roll off the ropes and ducking a punch from a no hoper is not greatness. Who did he beat? He managed a win over the body snatcher and Jirov at cruiser. He's probably the reason they moved the yard stick north. He's a blowhard who never accomplished squat and I'll say it again, one of the most overrated underachieving wind bags ever. I'd like to know who this James Toney is everyone keeps yacking on about year in and year out. The guy should be on the show "Urban Legends"

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    Default Re: Chris Eubank says fighting prime Roy Jones or James Toney would have been suicide

    Quote Originally Posted by IamInuit View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Beanflicker View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by IamInuit View Post
    Quite possibly the most overrated fighter in history.
    How anyone could watch prime James and come to that conclusion is beyond me. One of the most underrated guys ever.

    I have never seen this prime James Toney. When was that and who was that against? Sorry but a little shoulder roll off the ropes and ducking a punch from a no hoper is not greatness. Who did he beat? He managed a win over the body snatcher and Jirov at cruiser. He's probably the reason they moved the yard stick north. He's a blowhard who never accomplished squat and I'll say it again, one of the most overrated underachieving wind bags ever. I'd like to know who this James Toney is everyone keeps yacking on about year in and year out. The guy should be on the show "Urban Legends"
    Here is an objective list...

    1. Roy

    2. Toney

    3. Hops

    50 years from now, nobody is going to watch old fights of hopkins and be in awe.. they will just say " oh that guy who fought into old age with an unwatchable style "...

    People will always look back at a young Roy and Toney and be mesmerized by their capablities..

    Toney-McCallum 1, Nunn, Jirov, and Sam peter 1.. case closed..

    Even when toney was fat and out of shape, he beat a prime Peter ( unofficially ) with his skills alone.. who does that? Lol

    Only a natural fighter can do that, a true throwback. Can hopkins do that?

    And lol @ hops being more impressive than George Foreman.. his KO over Moorer is greater than anything hops ever did which includes robbing the fans with fake shoulder injuries, crying like a bitch against calzaghe, groveling on the floor for free points against a shot roy... he's pathetic..

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    Default Re: Chris Eubank says fighting prime Roy Jones or James Toney would have been suicide

    Quote Originally Posted by IamInuit View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by IamInuit View Post
    Quite possibly the most overrated fighter in history.
    How anyone could watch prime James and come to that conclusion is beyond me. One of the most underrated guys ever.

    I have never seen this prime James Toney. When was that and who was that against? Sorry but a little shoulder roll off the ropes and ducking a punch from a no hoper is not greatness. Who did he beat? He managed a win over the body snatcher and Jirov at cruiser. He's probably the reason they moved the yard stick north. He's a blowhard who never accomplished squat and I'll say it again, one of the most overrated underachieving wind bags ever. I'd like to know who this James Toney is everyone keeps yacking on about year in and year out. The guy should be on the show "Urban Legends"
    I normally agree with you but Toney beat an undefeated Nunn (in his home town), McCallum (although I thought he lost), he did have some bad performances because of weight issues but he moved up weight and schooled Barclay with beautiful display of boxing/brutality, ko Williams was quality, outboxing Jirov in a classic and the rest at heavyweight was a bonus.
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    Default Re: Chris Eubank says fighting prime Roy Jones or James Toney would have been suicide

    Calzaghe vs Toney, who would have won?

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    Quote Originally Posted by VG_Addict View Post
    Calzaghe vs Toney, who would have won?
    At their best I would say Joe Calzaghe, he would box from the outside, James was too dangerous close up with the right hand.
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    Default Re: Chris Eubank says fighting prime Roy Jones or James Toney would have been suicide

    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by IamInuit View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Beanflicker View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by IamInuit View Post
    Quite possibly the most overrated fighter in history.
    How anyone could watch prime James and come to that conclusion is beyond me. One of the most underrated guys ever.

    I have never seen this prime James Toney. When was that and who was that against? Sorry but a little shoulder roll off the ropes and ducking a punch from a no hoper is not greatness. Who did he beat? He managed a win over the body snatcher and Jirov at cruiser. He's probably the reason they moved the yard stick north. He's a blowhard who never accomplished squat and I'll say it again, one of the most overrated underachieving wind bags ever. I'd like to know who this James Toney is everyone keeps yacking on about year in and year out. The guy should be on the show "Urban Legends"
    I normally agree with you but Toney beat an undefeated Nunn (in his home town), McCallum (although I thought he lost), he did have some bad performances because of weight issues but he moved up weight and schooled Barclay with beautiful display of boxing/brutality, ko Williams was quality, outboxing Jirov in a classic and the rest at heavyweight was a bonus.
    He caught Nunn asleep after he dominated James for the entire fight. Yes he beat Mike in a close one but that's it. He robbed Tiberi. Iran was an overachiever short on everything skill wise and made a name for himself by having Tommy's number. James Toney has no business even being mentioned with the best super mids in the business let alone the great fighters. Sorry man but this is one of those times when facts say otherwise about the life and times of James Toney. He's got a big mouth and a catchy nic. That's about it. He was a no better hev than middle or super middle. He just didn't do anything except show shades of brilliance on highlight reels against for the most part over the hill fighters.

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    Default Re: Chris Eubank says fighting prime Roy Jones or James Toney would have been suicide

    James Toney skills are natural and instinctive. The moves he had at such an early age could not be taught. He was a skilled genius in the ring.
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    Default Re: Chris Eubank says fighting prime Roy Jones or James Toney would have been suicide

    Is Roy Jones the GOAT?

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