Old school boxers fought once a week against bunch of Shannon Briggs' opponents

[ross]

The difference was, generally, "old school" boxers who were the champ, were THE champ and had to fight all comers to stay champ. Not like today where you can hold one or two. Belts and in the process avoid fighting acouple ofother very good fighters whoarepotentially the best in the division.

They took all sorts, totay. Sharp adfit i between the genuine challenges.

Whats Wlads excuse for Mormeck etc?

[Beanflicker]

The difference was, generally, "old school" boxers who were the champ, were THE champ and had to fight all comers to stay champ. Not like today where you can hold one or two. Belts and in the process avoid fighting acouple ofother very good fighters whoarepotentially the best in the division.

Yeah? All comers you say? Wowsers!

There was nobody ducked back then I guess. And of course, no fighters ever got left in the cold because they didn't play ball with the mob or have the right mob connections.

And of course no fighter was ever denied a meaningful fight because of the colour of his skin. No promoter ever refused to take on a black fighter or put his kid in the ring with a black fighter because he wouldn't draw the same money a quality white fighter would.

And even if somehow a fighter WAS ducked or left in the cold for some reason, fear not! Because technology made access to information so easy! No doubt there would be tons of boxing websites writing articles about how fighter X is being ducked. The many internet boxing forums would be abuzz about how great this guy was and how he wasn't getting his shot. Oh and I bet his HL video and a couple of his fights would end up on Youtube and go viral, so the whole world knew about him and his incredible skill (as opposed to just the 50 drunk spectators at some smokey ball room who actually watched him fight).

What a magical time that was in boxing history. Nobody cared about money and everyone fought the toughest competition possible every time out because, gosh darn it, they owed it to the fans, to their country, and most importantly to god above!

I think I'm going to get cryogenically frozen. I'll leave a note to thaw me out when time travel is possible so I can go back and watch REAL MEN fight.

[Max Power]

ross is obviously mentally challenged on this issue. Obviously the more titles their are the more top opponents you must face and beat to get them and then you are more demanded to always face top comp as mandatory defenses.

Mormeck was NOT a bum opponent. Mormeck is a multiple time world champion boxer.

What we consider a complete mismatch and too small for HW today, it must be borne that this is a multiple world champ who is more athletic than any of those older boxers, that is BIGGER than Ali, Norton, Frazier, Louis, Liston and only 1lb!! lighter than prime George Foreman!!! Big fucking George! And he has an excellent record against excellent opponents!

The fact that for Wladimir an opponent of this calibre is considered poor competition is PROOF how much higher the quality of opposition is today. Absolute proof!

Name 1, just 1, boxcar Joe type opponent that Wladimir fought? The records of his opponents are all there. Same for other modern fighters!

This mindless bashing is sickening! Especially when the past guys you promote are highly questionable themselves!

[palmerq]

mormeck was a terrible opponent for wladimir that really cant be argued...

[IamInuit]

[Max Power]

mormeck was a terrible opponent for wladimir that really cant be argued...

I'm not arguing that at all.

Mormeck WAS a terrible opponent for Wladimir.

But 36-4 Mormeck, multiple world champ, losing only to 2 other champs and a couple other fights when green, at a highly athletic 216lbs.

For THAT to have been the worst opponent for Wladimir in the last decade is testament to the fact how quality has improved.

What would have been the BEST opponent Ali or Louis ever faced, was a complete mismatch for Wladimir!

Compare 37-30 Musto and 174lb Conn to Mormeck!

[Spicoli]

Here's a brain scratcher...name on one hand the number of top ten 'opponents' Briggs legitimately beat

[Max Power]

Here's a brain scratcher...name on one hand the number of top ten 'opponents' Briggs legitimately beat

Mercer and Liakovich and Foreman are the only great opponents.

Foreman was illegitimate though cause imo he beat Briggs.

Mercer was not top 10 at that time.

Leaving only Liakovich which I'm not sure what he was ranked at the time.

Therefore one can draw the conclusion that Briggs was never REALLY that good anyway.

His greatest LEGITIMATE achievement imo was dropping Lennox Lewis. A fight in which he was subsequently destroyed.

You could also say that a primer version of Briggs LOST to worse opponents than Leapai!

Nice observation Spicoli! Even I gave Briggs more credit than he was worth lol

[FinitoElDinamita]

Here's a brain scratcher...name on one hand the number of top ten 'opponents' Briggs legitimately beat

Easy. Liakhovich. Not only was he a top 10er, but he was the WBO champion fresh off his spectacular victory over Lamon Brewster. Wow what a war that was.

Briggs scored one of the greatrest come-from-behind KO over Liakhovich to become the last, great American HW champion.