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[Max Power]

Well I think what you guys are saying about Arreola is ludicrous.

- I would call his opponents just decent
- If you think a lean Arreola would weigh 200lbs that makes him 30lbs smaller than me which is ridiculous! You do realise that if Arreola is as out of shape as you say, the exercise would also add lean mass as well as burn fat right?!
- Thinking Fury has a higher workrate than Arreola is unbelievable.
- The points I made above regarding fat at HW are observationally proven facts.
- Sure, Arreola's fat consumes more energy than if he lost it all, obviously, but would he be as effective were he so much lighter without it? NO I HIGHLY DOUBT IT and evidence would suggest he wouldn't be.

So if Arreola beats Stiverne, would you consider that a great win? I'll back Chris and see how we go.

[Mr140]

If he wins the fight then Chris is not a waste of space if he losing again don't even want hear the guys name again really when talking about the greats. If he loses again then he pretty much lost to ever fighter worth a shit he has ever fought and i will start calling him the Mexican Butter bean.

[Max Power]

Chris Arreola... Is not at this stage considered a "great" fighter even by me. Let's be sure about that. But that doesn't mean he couldn't compete with them or is a bad fighter, he isn't and he could.

If he loses, well I wouldn't consider him useless based on that. That's the problem today. Guys like Carl Williams and Joe Walcott were considered great fighters yet had not just bad records.. They had BUM records.

But today if a guy loses a few fights at top level mind you, he's considered done or "exposed". Funny nobody got "exposed" back in the day. Sometimes a guy only has to lose just 1 fight and he's a bum! HA! I can only imagine what'll be said of Wilder when he loses his first fight!

But anyway, I think Arreola is going to win. And I don't understand why because not only is he American, but he is definitely the most exciting prospect going around, he has great character, humour and entertainment value and produces violent old school smack fests..

Isn't that what you want in the HW division? I thought Arreola embodies everything that you want the HW division to be. Rough, tough and powerful and courageous! Not boring, technical boxing skills.

You can't have it both ways unless there's another Lennox Lewis around the corner or something.

[ross]

Chris Arreola... Is not at this stage considered a "great" fighter even by me. Let's be sure about that. But that doesn't mean he couldn't compete with them or is a bad fighter, he isn't and he could.

If he loses, well I wouldn't consider him useless based on that. That's the problem today. Guys like Carl Williams and Joe Walcott were considered great fighters yet had not just bad records.. They had BUM records.

But today if a guy loses a few fights at top level mind you, he's considered done or "exposed". Funny nobody got "exposed" back in the day. Sometimes a guy only has to lose just 1 fight and he's a bum! HA! I can only imagine what'll be said of Wilder when he loses his first fight!

But anyway, I think Arreola is going to win. And I don't understand why because not only is he American, but he is definitely the most exciting prospect going around, he has great character, humour and entertainment value and produces violent old school smack fests..

Isn't that what you want in the HW division? I thought Arreola embodies everything that you want the HW division to be. Rough, tough and powerful and courageous! Not boring, technical boxing skills.

You can't have it both ways unless there's another Lennox Lewis around the corner or something.

Dont know who considers Williams a great fighter?

Wlacott was THE heavyweight champion! Something Arreola never will be.

This is a very elaborate wind up

[Max Power]

No wind up mate.

And you failed to address my questions as to why you would not want a guy like Arreola to be champ?

I think Chris has decent chances to become a HW champion. Who's better?

Wilder is taller but skinnier. Bigger punch but no chin or stamina and less skills.
Jennings is more skilled but smaller, low power and suspect chin.
Fury is suspect chinned and less power and skills. He is taller and heavier that's all.
And then there's Stiverne, we'll see...
etc etc.

[Mr140]

The fact that those are my option might just keep the brothers i guess at least they give a shit. The young brother can be bore at times but after his loses he would be dumb not to be. His brother was great fighter just missed his chance for torch passing and the quitting when he was way ahead but eh.

[Max Power]

I just think Chris or someone like him is what the division needs.. Excitement.

[Mr140]

Tell me what fighter Chris has beat that has done that is great or even good really. His most notable name is a guy is McCline who lost like 10 times already before hand. He has ok wins over prospects who are doing nothing what so ever he has ten opponents who have losing records. I am just surprised you are even backing the man because he seems like a guy you would like to bash on. He is 33 years of age been boxing for 11 years and hasn't really got his shit together yet. You bring up one lost Spinks had against a guy who was a beast and was a champ in prime. Yet Chris loses to Adamek not really even a Hw who is ok fighter really not great and then to a guy who no one knows really about before he beat him. Spinks wins over Holmes are better wins and his titles defenses after are about as good as the guys Chris has faced and beat. I mean a guy like you who shits on the old timers and how they were sloppy and brawlers yet you defend this guy why. I mean he fought bums and lost to Lhw and he is not a giant does not seem your cup of tea really. We will see how he does in his next fight and if he does win i give him some credit and maybe he is worth a shit.