Wladimir plans to box for 10 more years to break Joe louis' record

[ross]

Chris Arreola... Is not at this stage considered a "great" fighter even by me. Let's be sure about that. But that doesn't mean he couldn't compete with them or is a bad fighter, he isn't and he could.

If he loses, well I wouldn't consider him useless based on that. That's the problem today. Guys like Carl Williams and Joe Walcott were considered great fighters yet had not just bad records.. They had BUM records.

But today if a guy loses a few fights at top level mind you, he's considered done or "exposed". Funny nobody got "exposed" back in the day. Sometimes a guy only has to lose just 1 fight and he's a bum! HA! I can only imagine what'll be said of Wilder when he loses his first fight!

But anyway, I think Arreola is going to win. And I don't understand why because not only is he American, but he is definitely the most exciting prospect going around, he has great character, humour and entertainment value and produces violent old school smack fests..

Isn't that what you want in the HW division? I thought Arreola embodies everything that you want the HW division to be. Rough, tough and powerful and courageous! Not boring, technical boxing skills.

You can't have it both ways unless there's another Lennox Lewis around the corner or something.

Dont know who considers Williams a great fighter?

Wlacott was THE heavyweight champion! Something Arreola never will be.

This is a very elaborate wind up

[Max Power]

No wind up mate.

And you failed to address my questions as to why you would not want a guy like Arreola to be champ?

I think Chris has decent chances to become a HW champion. Who's better?

Wilder is taller but skinnier. Bigger punch but no chin or stamina and less skills.
Jennings is more skilled but smaller, low power and suspect chin.
Fury is suspect chinned and less power and skills. He is taller and heavier that's all.
And then there's Stiverne, we'll see...
etc etc.

[Mr140]

The fact that those are my option might just keep the brothers i guess at least they give a shit. The young brother can be bore at times but after his loses he would be dumb not to be. His brother was great fighter just missed his chance for torch passing and the quitting when he was way ahead but eh.

[Max Power]

I just think Chris or someone like him is what the division needs.. Excitement.

[ross]

I just think Chris or someone like him is what the division needs.. Excitement.

He makes a quality, fun opponent but thats it.

I think Stiverne is only slightly better.

[Max Power]

I just think Chris or someone like him is what the division needs.. Excitement.

He makes a quality, fun opponent but thats it.

I think Stiverne is only slightly better.

Well I cannot wait for that fight!

I hope Arreola beats him good, I know he has the potential to get that dude out of there!!

There are a lot of good fights coming up in the HW division.

Fury/Chisora
Arreola/Stiverne
Wilder/(Arreola/Stiverne) winner
Wladimir and the winners of those fights will also be good most likely.

In fact about the only definitely boring fight this year will be the Pulev/Wladimir fight, technical and boring so fightfan should be in for a treat! lol

[p4pking]

Disagree Max, in fact I think those are both unnecessary rematches, all four guys could be in much more interesting bouts. As much as Arreola is fun to watch, he wasn't against Stiverne really was he? Maybe he was taken out of it mentally after being dropped and cut, but suppose the fight plays out a similar way, both guys have just wasted so much time. Fury-Chisora was a pretty clear cut workmanlike win, I don't see why that rematch would exceed anyones expectations either. Chisora will be in better shape this time, Fury is actually a little better in general this time, I expect a more polished win by a similar margin. Chisora isn't that good, he can't punch shit, and should probably be thrown in the loony bin to fight his nurses at medication time. All he brings to a world class fight is a pile of thug BS for the pre-fight circus, imo.

I'd be very interested in seeing Fury or Wilder fight the winner of Stiverne-Arreola, or each other of course though, just wish all the alphabet crap wasn't in the way. Bryant Jennings is a guy who should be in this mix, he might be the best of the lot for my money.