Wladimir plans to box for 10 more years to break Joe louis' record

**palmerq** · 05-03-2014 02:48 AM

I am a big corey sanders fan .. but i think people are getting a bit carried away with his actual abilty... he beat wlad fair and square, wladimir was young and got ko'd.. Wladimir has definently improved since then, and fights a lot smarter now, it is strange to think(looking at the way he boxes now) but back in his earlier pro days he was very aggresive and it cost him.. Sanders was a pretty good guy, very tough and hit hard.... but he was a complete wild man who did not defend himself at all, he was very easy to hit.. He's a good opponent for a lot of guys but he was not at the top level in my opinion... Him v haye prime for prime would be a very interesting fight... I think haye would have ko'd him, but sanders had long arms he could have sent him to the floor just as easy.. Anyway sanders was great fun to watch and underrated but he was never that great.

as for vitali being in his prime when he face lewis... maybe we can compare the career of lewis and vitali .. vitali was 31 when he fought lewis and when lewis was between teh ages of 30-32 he had a very close fight against a competent but not world class boxer coming off a loss in ray mercer, some people on this forum even think mercer won that.. he went on to face shannon briggs and ko'd him in style but was wobbled badly twice.. Now lennox won these fights but in my opinion lennox definently improved after these fights to get his career best wins v holyfield and maybe even vitali.. Lennox certainly improved after turning 30 so i dont think it is far fetched that vitali improved a lot after the fight v lennox either..

Even though i am a big klitschko fan Lewis was a greta boxer and I do not know if vitali would have ever beaten him, obviously i believe he could have though !

**Max Power** · 05-03-2014 05:28 AM

Originally Posted by palmerq

I am a big corey sanders fan .. but i think people are getting a bit carried away with his actual abilty... he beat wlad fair and square, wladimir was young and got ko'd.. Wladimir has definently improved since then, and fights a lot smarter now, it is strange to think(looking at the way he boxes now) but back in his earlier pro days he was very aggresive and it cost him.. Sanders was a pretty good guy, very tough and hit hard.... but he was a complete wild man who did not defend himself at all, he was very easy to hit.. He's a good opponent for a lot of guys but he was not at the top level in my opinion... Him v haye prime for prime would be a very interesting fight... I think haye would have ko'd him, but sanders had long arms he could have sent him to the floor just as easy.. Anyway sanders was great fun to watch and underrated but he was never that great.

as for vitali being in his prime when he face lewis... maybe we can compare the career of lewis and vitali .. vitali was 31 when he fought lewis and when lewis was between teh ages of 30-32 he had a very close fight against a competent but not world class boxer coming off a loss in ray mercer, some people on this forum even think mercer won that.. he went on to face shannon briggs and ko'd him in style but was wobbled badly twice.. Now lennox won these fights but in my opinion lennox definently improved after these fights to get his career best wins v holyfield and maybe even vitali.. Lennox certainly improved after turning 30 so i dont think it is far fetched that vitali improved a lot after the fight v lennox either..

Even though i am a big klitschko fan Lewis was a greta boxer and I do not know if vitali would have ever beaten him, obviously i believe he could have though !

And this @palmerq is pretty much EXACTLY my opinion on these issues in total. Respect!

I am fan of both boxers and believe they are not far removed as either side tries to sell.

As for Sander's you are right about his defense and wild style and that's precisely why he was was not a great fighter. What I would call him was a very DANGEROUS fighter because on a given night he had very high potential to cause an upset because of his unique qualities, but he could also be beaten soundly as well. You mean "Corrie" Sander's not "Corey", they are different boxers.

**palmerq** · 05-03-2014 06:14 AM

Originally Posted by Max Power

You mean "Corrie" Sander's not "Corey", they are different boxers.

yes you are right there... i got that one wrong completley S: i meant the south african corey.... he was just great fun to watch, I do think if he was a better looking man and not from an obscure boxing country then he would have been a fairly big star(with a few more losses on his record but it would have been fun!)