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    Default Re: Which is the biggest reason for Floyd's struggles tonight?

    Quote Originally Posted by Max Power View Post
    Not as dominant as I expected (I thought it might be a late KO) but still a clear victory for Floyd (some wad reckons it was a "draw" above, must be C J Ross's husband lol).

    You should have added a FOURTH possibility...

    Imo the most accurate one...

    4. Maybe, just maybe, he had a bad night.. And maybe in addition, Marcos had a good night. That's life!

    Seems like a passable reason to me for the champ.

    But credit to Maidana, he's no fluke now, he's a serious factor in the division.

    His performance against Floyd will probably make Broner feel a little better now LOL. Maybe we'll hear that mouth open again soon!!
    What did Maidana actually accomplish besides pushing Floyd against the ropes?

    He got beat on the inside and the outside.

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    Default Re: Which is the biggest reason for Floyd's struggles tonight?

    She carried Maidana all the way to the final bell... to make it seem like this fight was competitive. Meanwhile, Maidana made sure that his right hand hit nothing but air... all twelve rounds. A sleeper of a fight!

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    Default Re: Which is the biggest reason for Floyd's struggles tonight?

    His opponent. Floyd didn't "choose" anything here. He was in a fight

    Also, Beiber ffs and literally surrounding himself with clowns

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    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise View Post
    Mayweather struggle is part illusion. Maidana did well. He pressure Mayweather and landed his punches. The fact that it's been years since anybody did that to Floyd makes many believe he really struggled. In reality he didn't struggle. He was just in a hard fight. Boxing is suppose to be hard. It's just been so easy for him for so long it's a shock when he has a hard one
    I agree with the above.

    I also would like to know whether floyd HAD to go to the ropes or CHOSE to go to the ropes...just like with cotto he might have chose to exchange more but I had this fight alot closer..7-5 floyd.

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    Default Re: Which is the biggest reason for Floyd's struggles tonight?

    Quote Originally Posted by cyclone View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Max Power View Post
    Not as dominant as I expected (I thought it might be a late KO) but still a clear victory for Floyd (some wad reckons it was a "draw" above, must be C J Ross's husband lol).

    You should have added a FOURTH possibility...

    Imo the most accurate one...

    4. Maybe, just maybe, he had a bad night.. And maybe in addition, Marcos had a good night. That's life!

    Seems like a passable reason to me for the champ.

    But credit to Maidana, he's no fluke now, he's a serious factor in the division.

    His performance against Floyd will probably make Broner feel a little better now LOL. Maybe we'll hear that mouth open again soon!!
    What did Maidana actually accomplish besides pushing Floyd against the ropes?

    He got beat on the inside and the outside.
    Maidana landed over 200 punches against one of the most effective defensive savvy fighters in the world. He outlanded Mayweather in half the rounds. He did effective work on the inside and outside, just as Mayweather did in the rounds he did well in.

    In response to the OP, I think Mayweather prepares hard for every fight, but perhaps expected Maidana to be on the level of Guerrero and be coming at him slow and be countered accordingly. Maybe also with thoughts of Gatti in mind too. However, Mayweather is 37 and at the lighter weights fighters always slip at around this age. Mayweather got Mosley at the right time and in turn Maidana got Mayweather at the right time. I don't think Mayweather has his legs for 3 minutes a round anymore and only became semi-elusive after Maidana had worked so hard in the first half of the fight. I think it is just down to age. Cotto showed glimpses of it and now a few years on I think there is further erosion.

    I know that sounds like I am discrediting Maidana, who I think actually won the fight, but I don't think he would have walked through the Mayweather of 2008 so easily. Maidana is awkward and difficult, but Amir Khan showed for the first half of their fight how to evade him. Maidana has probably improved too, but advanced age can only mean deterioration for Mayweather too. The man has a practically white beard, he is aging and auditioning for the role of King Lear.

    Mayweather was getting ploughed from the off here. I hate to say it, but I think Khan could also outwork Mayweather. He is just old and I don't think he is Calzaghe smart in knowing when to get out. Maybe he flattens Maidana in the rematch, but he is only going to get older. Sam Peter was never as skilled as James Toney, but younger and bigger will happen to someone who doesn't get out at the right time.

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    Default Re: Which is the biggest reason for Floyd's struggles tonight?

    Just look at my charming signature image and compare that with the face of Mayweather today. That's a lot of years no matter how well you preserve yourself. 37. I think the same about Marquez today and don't see why he is continuing. Boxers seldom cut the scene with the perfect ending.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise View Post
    Mayweather struggle is part illusion. Maidana did well. He pressure Mayweather and landed his punches. The fact that it's been years since anybody did that to Floyd makes many believe he really struggled. In reality he didn't struggle. He was just in a hard fight. Boxing is suppose to be hard. It's just been so easy for him for so long it's a shock when he has a hard one
    Pretty much this. I had it 9-3 for Mayweather. Maidana did ok. But he also cheated a lot. Headbutts, low blows and at one point he tried to knee Mayweather. Somehow, that translates to Maidana showing effective aggression. In reality, effective aggression still has to allow you to land punched for it to be effective. Nullyfying someone by keeping them on the ropes doesn't win you rounds unless you land cleanly, especially when Mayweather still finds time to land a couple of really clean combos. This happened in probably 10 of the 12 rounds, and in at least 4 or 5 of the rounds, Maidana was visibly outclassed.

    It just wasn't close. It was competitive. I don't particularly want to see a rematch. It wasn't that exciting. It was full of fouls and clinching. I dread the day he is in a close fight tho. The way the judging is going lately, he's going to get a bull shit loss.
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    Default Re: Which is the biggest reason for Floyd's struggles tonight?

    While I applaud Maidana's effort, I don't particularly like this tactic of pushing someone against the ropes, sometimes using the head to do so as well, and teeing off with looping shots. With Maidana having the weight advantage, this helped him shove Mayweather against the ropes sometimes. I'm just not sure this is a technique that makes boxing enjoyable. I find it sort of ugly and questionable as a "skill". I mean, this is boxing and not MMA. Cornering on the ropes is fine but not gluing someone to the ropes with your weight. That said, Mayweather needs to take better care then to end up cornered so often.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sleepwalker View Post
    1. Old Age

    2. Underestimating Maidana

    3. Distractions due to situation with his ex-fiance
    To be honest I think it's good that a fighter like Maidana did not beat Floyd. Maidana, IMO, would start underdog against pretty much every top welter, junior middle weight out there

    It must hard to bite down and suck it up and go in the trenches when you earn a million a month as Mayweather says he does.

    I thought Mayweather did not match Maidana's intensity. I dunno with Floyd at times you almost get the impression that he thinks fighting....REAL FIGHTING (Were the bombs are throwing) is beneath him

    It's almost like he's been so indoctrinated into his own defensive style, pot shotting, shoulder roll style that's it hard for him to break out of that. Funny thing is I actually think if Mayweather did war with Maidana i reckon he would have stopped him. I believe Mayweather is one of a few fighters that will be able to think clearly even in the hottest of fights.

    I though Floyd won, by the way, the quality shots came from him. Not sure if there will a rematch. I reckon Khan deserves it after doing to Collazo what no-one else has done, beating him soundly, and knocking him down three times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ono View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise View Post
    Mayweather struggle is part illusion. Maidana did well. He pressure Mayweather and landed his punches. The fact that it's been years since anybody did that to Floyd makes many believe he really struggled. In reality he didn't struggle. He was just in a hard fight. Boxing is suppose to be hard. It's just been so easy for him for so long it's a shock when he has a hard one
    Pretty much this. I had it 9-3 for Mayweather. Maidana did ok. But he also cheated a lot. Headbutts, low blows and at one point he tried to knee Mayweather. Somehow, that translates to Maidana showing effective aggression. In reality, effective aggression still has to allow you to land punched for it to be effective. Nullyfying someone by keeping them on the ropes doesn't win you rounds unless you land cleanly, especially when Mayweather still finds time to land a couple of really clean combos. This happened in probably 10 of the 12 rounds, and in at least 4 or 5 of the rounds, Maidana was visibly outclassed.

    It just wasn't close. It was competitive. I don't particularly want to see a rematch. It wasn't that exciting. It was full of fouls and clinching. I dread the day he is in a close fight tho. The way the judging is going lately, he's going to get a bull shit loss.
    This...

    Floyd looked like he did back when he first turned WW....fighting off the ropes a lot.

    If he uses the ring he's a cowardly safety first pot-shotter.

    When he gets down in the trenches and lands combos to the head and body,he then becomes washed-up

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyclone View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Max Power View Post
    Not as dominant as I expected (I thought it might be a late KO) but still a clear victory for Floyd (some wad reckons it was a "draw" above, must be C J Ross's husband lol).

    You should have added a FOURTH possibility...

    Imo the most accurate one...

    4. Maybe, just maybe, he had a bad night.. And maybe in addition, Marcos had a good night. That's life!

    Seems like a passable reason to me for the champ.

    But credit to Maidana, he's no fluke now, he's a serious factor in the division.

    His performance against Floyd will probably make Broner feel a little better now LOL. Maybe we'll hear that mouth open again soon!!
    What did Maidana actually accomplish besides pushing Floyd against the ropes?

    He got beat on the inside and the outside.
    In case you can't tell I'm trying to be gracious to Marcos here, of course Floyd won a comfortable decision. I am giving Maidana a bit of credit for roughing Floyd a bit whereas previously thought he'd simply knock Maidana out. I am just dead against ascribing any perceived drop in performance to his age!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spicoli View Post
    His opponent. Floyd didn't "choose" anything here. He was in a fight

    Also, Beiber ffs and literally surrounding himself with clowns
    Bieber is a complete faggot. Any young girl who has had an inch of cock up her will tell you he's a faggot, not exactly a "tough guy image" is it lol I can't believe he chills with that little moron!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gandalf View Post
    Just look at my charming signature image and compare that with the face of Mayweather today. That's a lot of years no matter how well you preserve yourself. 37. I think the same about Marquez today and don't see why he is continuing. Boxers seldom cut the scene with the perfect ending.
    Mayweather is far smarter than Calzhage...he does everything better by miles.
    Joe should be mention along with Sven Ottke...not Floyd Mayweather.

    Floyd fought like he did when he first turned WW.

    He really let his hands go and was exchanging.

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    Default Re: Which is the biggest reason for Floyd's struggles tonight?

    Anyone who thinks it was Floyd getting old in there is a jackass.

    This is a brand new Chino who was supremely prepared and came in with a fantastic game plan. He fought great defensively: Floyd had more trouble hitting him clean than I remember of any Floyd opponent in a long time. And that wasn't a fluke. Floyd landed at a high %, but most of those landed shots were either partially blocked or Chino was rolling away from.

    Chino mixed up his attack and really kept Floyd guessing. Sometimes he'd bullrush, sometimes he'd sit behind a very effective power-jab that was clearly bothering Floyd at times, and sometimes he'd become the boxer/puncher looking to set up a haymaker.

    Mayweather had a tough night in there and almost lost the fight. Chino turned the heat up and fought his fight a lot of the rounds. It's very rare to see someone else dictating the pace of a fight against Mayweather.

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    Default Re: Which is the biggest reason for Floyd's struggles tonight?

    I should clarify that yeah, Floyd IS getting old and has been getting "old" for the past few years. Floyd is out of his prime and is nowhere near as quick as he once was.

    But it's stupid to use that as a reason. This Floyd was no difference than the Floyd who completely whitewashed Canelo last year.

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